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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Jay
I did not see anyone reply to u.=20
There are several now on and around 136.178 plus/minus including mysel=
f and all visible at RN3AGC=20
Whether we are getting to JA7NI is another story.
QTR now 2010 GMT

73 mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA


  Toni

  What is your projected start time?

  Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2=20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: HB9ASB=20
    To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:44 AM
    Subject: Re: LF: HE3OM in JA


    Thank you Mike
    we will try again tonight and JA7NI will switch to QRSS30.
    73 de Toni


    2011/2/26 Mike Dennison <mike.dennison@ntlworld.com>

      Last night HE3OM put a good signal into JA7NI's grabber at JA da=
wn..
      UA4WPF can also be seen, but much weaker than previously. See
      attached.

      Also attached is the same time on RN3AGC's grabber which shows=
 that
      DF6NM and myself were also calling, but we could not compete wit=
h
      HE3OM's ERP which I estimate as 15-20dB up on us.

      The JA picture also supports my theory that QRS120 is not a prac=
tical
      speed for real DX. There are long periods where the signal is we=
ll
      above the noise, but QSB prevents the whole callsign being recei=
ved.
      At that strength, QRS30 would probably have still been viable an=
d
      allowed a couple of full calls to be read.

      Congratulations to HE3OM on what may be an amateur world record=
 on
      136, though with an estimated ERP much bigger than most amateurs=
 have
      available.

      Mike, G3XDV
      =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Jay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I did not see anyone reply to u. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>There are several now on and around 136.178 pl=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Whether we are getting to JA7NI is another=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>QTR now 2010 GMT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>73 mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Toni</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is your projected start time?<=
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay W1VD&nbsp; WD2XNS&nbsp; WE2XGR/=
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    <A title=3Dhb9asb@gmail.com href=3D"mailto:hb9asb@gmail.com">HB9AS=
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rg">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</A>=20
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>Thank you Mike<BR>we will try again tonight and JA7=
NI will=20
    switch to QRSS30.<BR>73 de Toni<BR><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2011/2/26 Mike Dennison <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&=
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      night HE3OM put a good signal into JA7NI's grabber at JA dawn..<=
BR>UA4WPF=20
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      See<BR>attached.<BR><BR>Also attached is the same time on RN3AGC=
's grabber=20
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 could not=20
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 not a=20
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 signal is=20
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ng=20
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 been viable=20
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