X-GM-THRID: 1203391928636500792 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 61a2206d025ad8390c1e446ecaaef9a690596c78 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.5 with SMTP id u5cs23357wra; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.199.9 with SMTP id w9mr3276088nff; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10si3710847nfb.2006.05.15.02.58.23; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FfZkV-0004dA-Kw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:52:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FfZkV-0004d1-5f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:52:23 +0100 Received: from mx-out.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91] helo=mail.libertysurf.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FfbGR-0001GE-Uw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:29:33 +0100 Received: from jeff (213.36.129.9) by mail.libertysurf.net (7.2.071) id 445913C4001AC612 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Message-ID: <008601c677fd$0adc9fa0$098124d5@jeff> From: "F6CWN" To: References: <000f01c67791$b365e300$2102000a@ibm> <004a01c677a1$50793ac0$d6277ad5@lark> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 09:53:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0619-3, 12/05/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.211 Subject: LF: Re: 'meter problem' Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6408 15./05/2006 0934z Hello Dick and the list, I suggest a converter U/I with AOP the drive the galva in current. 73: Jeff F6CWN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dick > To: > Sent: 14 May 2006 20:58 > Subject: LF: 'meter problem' > > > Hello all, > > I almost finished my new 136kHz transmitter, and after several hours of > fault-finding it seems to work upto > 600-700Watt DC input. > > However, I do have a 'problem' .......... > > Instead of using a 200uA meter for the forward and returned power, I'm > using > a 10mA meter. > This 10mA meter needs 53mV for full scale, internal resistance somewhere > around 6 Ohm. > When I put this meter into the G0MRF design it is a to heavy load for the > measurement circuit. > Open voltage drops from 13V to almost 0 V due to the low internal > resistamce. > This also effects the SWR protection circuit........ > > So, I did some experiments by using a FET or transistor as a driver for > the > meter. > The measurment circuit voltage is almost not effected by the meter circuit > now, however > it is very difficult to find a good setpoint for the meter....... > > i.e when doubling the power, the meter must read also twice the power. > Somehow I'm not able to get the right linearity or what ever. > > Anyone out there with a circuit diagram that does work? or suggestions. > > It is difficult to exchange the meter because I cannot easily reach the > mountingscrews anymore..... > So I have to use this 10mA meter........ > > 73 > > Dick, PA4VHF