Return-Path: Received: (qmail 127 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2001 07:42:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jul 2001 07:42:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 24307 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2001 07:42:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 30 Jul 2001 07:42:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15R7bJ-0004BI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:36:29 +0100 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.81]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15R7bF-0004BD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:36:25 +0100 Received: from [62.7.50.221] (helo=dave) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #9) id 15R7aa-0005q0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:35:45 +0100 Message-ID: <008401c118ca$a21db1c0$dd32073e@dave> From: "Dave Sergeant" To: "rsgb_lf_group" References: <+FZB9BAk27Y7Ewjt@telemetry.demon.co.uk> Subject: LF: Re: 136 dead band. Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:36:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >From Dave G3YMC Tom G3OLB wrote: When I listened on the transmitting antenna there was *no* sign of Tom but on the loop >he was QRK 3-4 As most of you know, I have been using a loop antenna for transmit/receive for several years (see my web site) - this is much bigger than the likes of the G3LNP loop with a circumference of 100ft. I am now experimenting with a vertical, a loaded Butternut vertical 30ft high. It is rather interesting to note that apart from Tom's signal, who is in a null of my loop and is much stronger on the vertical, without exception all other signals are a similar strength on the vertical. However the noise level on the vertical is higher, which means that in all cases copy is much better on the loop - the difference is in fact quite spectacular. I have been saying for a long time that loops make excellent receive antennas, this has convinced me. I have not been able to check the relative performance in its other null, due to the lack of activity from the continent, in particular PA0. It is worth remembering that the same may not apply to smaller loop antennas of 1-2m square, where the received signal is lower and the signal to noise ratio advantage may be less. I have one or two changes still to do to the transmitter before I can use the vertical on transmit, but hope that will be soon. Perhaps I will then be able to work Tom!! Cheers Dave G3YMC dsergeant@iee.org dsergeant@btinternet.com http://www.dsergeant.btinternet.co.uk