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From: "f1tay" <f1tay@wanadoo.fr>
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Subject: Re: LF: 183 carrier received in ZL
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:26:12 -0000
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The TX  LW of Europe 1 is in Germany not in France.
The studio is at Paris (France). Europe 1 is a french langage commerciale
station created in 1955.

Internet site on Europe 1 and France-Inter LW TX :
http://home.worldnet.fr/~tvignaud/

73 de Daniel

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sexton" <computernetworks@go.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 183 carrier received in ZL


> Hi Bob,
> It sounds as though you have found it. When this station is not visible,
there is no chance of receiving amateur transmissions from Europe.
> Europe 1 is situated at Saarlouis, France 06E41/49N17.
> This is a 2MW station and as you say does not conform to the 9 kHz raster
for ITU 1. To achieve very high modulation depth, they compress the normal
dynamic range of speech so that the sidebands are rather dense, but this may
not be observable.
> There is an image of the modulation on my web site at:
http://www.g4cnn.f2s.com
>
> 73, John, G4CNN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Vernall"<vernall@xtra.co.nz>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Tue Aug 14 14:53:56 PDT 2001
> Subject: LF: 183 carrier received in ZL
>
> >Hi all,>
> >I report quite good reception of a 183 kHz carrier around ZL sunrise this
> >morning.  I presume it is the German broadcast station, as the frequency
is
> >relatively unique, not being on the 9 kHz raster of carrier frequencies
for
> >LF AM broadcasting in ITU Region 1 (the standard frequencies are 181 and
190
> >kHz for that part of the band).
> >
> >I have a series of 3 Argo captures, which show some deep fades, but at
best
> >it is a very good "solid line" on Argo (30 second dot setting).
> >
> >I found the carrier frequency to be within 0.1 Hz of 183 kHz.  It would
be
> >good if a local amateur could confirm that the 183 carrier is very close
to
> >declared frequency.
> >
> >I was advised by Mike ZL4OL that sunrise/sunset times for mid August mean
> >that the only dark path times for Germany to New Zealand are around ZL
> >sunrise, and then for only tens of minutes.  183 carrier was received for
> >much longer than that, but did build up and then drop out either side of
the
> >time for a dark path.  Reception of 183 around ZL sunset has been nil,
but
> >that is not surprising for current sunrise in Germany.
> >
> >There is perhaps a glimmer of hope for amateur QRP signals to make it
> >between EU and ZL ????
> >
> >The ZL6QH trustee has made a request to the New Zealand licensing
authority
> >for the European 136 kHz band to be added to the existing low frequency
> >permit.
> >
> >73, Bob ZL2CA
> >
> >
>
>
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