Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf04.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF043-981472a714838b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:37:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF097-981472a714838b; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:37:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InkWs-0002dY-To for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:36:54 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InkWs-0002dP-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:36:54 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InkWo-0007Ii-Sj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:36:54 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F09027000082 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 01:36:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.48.74]) by mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id BE8157000081 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 01:36:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071102003624780.BE8157000081@mwinf3111.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <008201c81ce8$6d0d7cd0$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <001101c81a9a$0be1eae0$f11e7ad5@w4o8m9> <1148957206.20071030081706@gmx.de> <001f01c81aeb$c8d92590$0e00000a@AGB> <001601c81b09$2b5e11e0$eb047ad5@w4o8m9> <000701c81b36$b23598a0$c8197ad5@w4o8m9> <001d01c81b4b$dfd78600$4b1f7ad5@w4o8m9> <016a01c81ba4$8768d4c0$6f6a6a58@wgt01> <002f01c81be8$63ee8dc0$1e1a8351@w4o8m9> <004901c81cd0$3a505e60$0d00000a@AGB> <002501c81cdf$7e3ef8c0$90297ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 00:36:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:32 PM Subject: Re: LF: EER Transverter and Linear Modes testing > Dear Chris, Graham, LF Group, > > Thanks to G3XIZ earlier this evening for a nice RTTY QSO on 503.5kHz. I > used > MMTTY with 85Hz shift, and everything worked fine - mind you, Chris is not > far from me, and is a good 599 signal. > > I am currently (2310utc) sending some test calls on 503.5kHz in PSK31 > using > G3PLX's Windows software - any reports/QSOs welcome. > > >> Hi Jim, >> >> >> >> Interesting on the system, How are you driving it ? >> >> >> >> As for 'tests' well , what's the audio bandwidth of you system ? , >> looks >> like most modes are in multipsk , but for rtty at 85 hz shift , mmtty > has >> that option >> > The driver is an IC 718 transmitting on 4.50x MHz in LSB mode, connected > to > the PC sound card in the usual way for data operation. So the bandwidth is > about 2.7kHz, although I would not want to use it all! The HF output is > mixed down to 500 kHz with a 4MHz crystal, and also fed to a simple diode > envelope detector to recover the modulation envelope. The 500kHz output is > filtered and amplified linearly to about +13dBm, then applied to a > limiting > amplifier to give a square wave "clock" signal for the class D output > stage > with the amplitude modulation stripped off, but retaining the frequency > and > phase information. The envelope detector output is used as a reference > voltage for a series regulator feeding the DC power to the class D PA, so > the DC supply voltage is modulated with the envelope of the original > signal. > The result is the output of the class D PA looking pretty close to the > original modulated signal. On receive, the signal path is reversed, and > the > incoming signal mixed up to 4.5MHz for reception by the IC718. > > I have been looking at the software on NL9222's extensive download site, > there seems to be a number of feasible modes there that might be worth > trying - I will try installing some over the next few days. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > Ok Jim, Thanks for that , Is this a published dsesign or your own ? , Ive added a page to the 'ng' http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/eer-transmitting Looks like a few stations are intrested in this , may be you can add any links or data to the page ? what you describe looks to fit with the general descriptions of the 'mode' , Q, do you have any problem with the 'envalope = zero' issue ? I can see your signal at the moment (00-30 hrs) but its too low to print . looks like a good signal at Bham , dont know about 'rtty' think we should call it 'skippy' hih , I did see a stronger signal earlly on, which may of printed .. If your about , friday night , I will rig the tx up , see if we can do anything , early in the evening , after sunset is usually the best signals from london area ? G ..