X-GM-THRID: 1208287798546252463 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: eed0b23fd5806b8ee36f87e8d9980a44bfee0ca7 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs206680qbh; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.43.11 with SMTP id q11mr1841557nfq; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9si9858145nfc.2006.07.07.15.57.19; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FyzDK-0002Gz-Fz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:54:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FyzDJ-0002Gq-PJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:54:21 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyzDF-0000nF-V5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:54:21 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 9CBC313650 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:58:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <007701c6a218$306fb5a0$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: "LF \(RSGB\)" Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 22:53:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.102,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Need Solenoid transformer data for antenna Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6711 I am starting to see progress but now, every time I get close to resonance, the waveform of the voltage becomes quite distorted. I believe that it was Scott who told me that the way he beat the waveform problem was to use an isolating transformer at the antenna. I have no iron but I have a LOT of different sizes of PVC conduit and wire. What I propose is to take a piece of that 10-3/4 inch form and wind a trifilar of #17? on it. One winding would be for 50 ohms primary from the transmitter and the other two would be secondaries. I can tap one of the secondaries for antenna impedances less than 50 and if needed add the second winding in series for impedances above 50. The problem is that I do not have any idea how many turns I should have. I think too few will result in poor coupling and too many may cause the internal reactance to limit current flow. Any guesses where to start? The wire works out to about 19 turns per inch, so dividing by 3 means 19/3 or 6-1/3 turns per inch on all windings. To get started, I plan to make about 8 trifilar turns of each. If this is poor design, please let me know. I tried a transformer made over a TV horizontal output core and when I applied this to the dummy load, the current was lagging the voltage with only about 24 turns on it. I do not like the result and set the idea of iron out of the way for now. "J"