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Content preview: Do you mean Radio amateurs being vetted by some Appliance operator that does not know the difference between a Euro and a Lira ----- Original Message ----- From: Alberto di Bene To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.128.240 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FSL_XM_419 Old OE version in X-Mailer only seen in 419 spam -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 FSL_UA FSL_UA X-Scan-Signature: fbdd513523001863775249cfaf215eac Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01CD39E2.64F54480" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:470522656:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60da4fbe8a74102f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01CD39E2.64F54480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you mean Radio amateurs being vetted by some Appliance operator that = does not know the difference between a Euro and a Lira ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alberto di Bene=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE On 5/24/2012 6:33 PM, g3zjo wrote:=20 Why not go for it and start it yourself. We know some will not move so it will be an additional facility. = Please make sure it is has no taboo, f frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rules, and no childish = sulking. Another suggestion is to not make it an open group, meaning that each = request for membership should be accompanied by a very short introductory message explaining why that = membership is requested. Then the moderator(s) of the group will decide whether to accept it or = not. I suppose the same is done presently with the Majordomo mailer. And, if that introductory message is convincing, but up to a point... = then the moderator can accept the individual, but putting him in moderation status, meaning that every message from = him must be examined by the moderator(s) before being published. The moderation status can be removed after a = couple of legitimate messages from the guy, showing that he is not a troll or spammer. I use this method on my soft_radio Yahoo group =20 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soft_radio/ with more than 2300 subscribers, and, if memory serves, I had just a = couple of cases where a spam message=20 got through in more than 8 years of the existence of that group. 73 Alberto I2PHD ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01CD39E2.64F54480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Do you mean Radio amateurs being vetted by some = Appliance=20 operator that does not know the difference between a Euro and a=20 Lira
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alberto di = Bene=20
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 = 5:17=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: An = "LF-reflector" Yahoo=20 group instead .....PLEASE

On 5/24/2012 6:33 PM, g3zjo wrote:=20
Why not=20 go for it and start it yourself.
We know some will not move so it = will be=20 an additional facility. Please make sure it is has no taboo,=20 f
frequencies, modes, opinions, or subjects rules, and no = childish=20 sulking.
Another suggestion is to not make it an = open group,=20 meaning that each request for membership should be
accompanied by a = very=20 short introductory message explaining why that membership is=20 requested.
Then the moderator(s) of the group will decide whether = to accept=20 it or not.  I suppose the same is done
presently with the = Majordomo=20 mailer.

And, if that introductory message is convincing, but up = to a=20 point... then the moderator can accept the individual,
but putting = him in=20 moderation status, meaning that every message from him must be = examined by the=20 moderator(s)
before being published.  The moderation status = can be=20 removed after a couple of legitimate messages from the guy,
showing = that he=20 is not a troll or spammer.

I use this method on my = soft_radio =20 Yahoo group  
http://groups.yahoo.co= m/group/soft_radio/
with=20 more than 2300 subscribers, and, if memory serves, I had just a couple = of=20 cases where a spam message
got through in more than 8 years of the = existence of that group.

73  Alberto =20 I2PHD

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