Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:04:39 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F5Si6-0006w1-SA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:04:39 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F5Si6-0006vn-MI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:04:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F5ShW-0001tg-6b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:04:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F5ShV-0001tX-Px for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:04:01 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.204]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F5U2J-0003sX-FE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:29:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 88602 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2006 19:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (davepick@btinternet.com@86.137.120.163 with login) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2006 19:03:24 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:03:37 -0000 Message-ID: <007301c629bd$b416d1f0$f500a8c0@Dell5150> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcYpvbO3ZEI4ps1iTJSCC4Kmkb8oRg== Subject: LF: GPS locked tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Dear all I have just received this from Peter Martinez G3PLX who is conducting tests with phase coherent GPS-locked signals on LF. He asked me to pass it on to the group so that you'll know what's going on! Dave G3YXM --------------------------------- For info, CT1DRP is now radiating a plain carrier on 136718.75Hz, locked to GPS. To give you an idea of what this means, if he triggered his scope from the GPS 1Hz pulse, set a timebase span of 10uS or so, and looked at his transmitter RF carrier waveform, it first shows a positive-going zero-crossing, then 1 sec later a negative peak, then one sec later a negative-going zero-crossing, and the a positive peak, and repeats that 4 sec sequence with no drift. I am receiving in a similar fashion, and I am now able to measure the received signal phase in absolute terms. It's early days but we hope soon to be able to stay in phase over 24 hours. That means keeping the clocks with which we generate RF at each end in time with each other to within a few uS over a day. The signal itself, of course, drifts late in phase at night and advances in the morning, typically by 2-3 cycles. The significance of the frequency he is using is that it's a nice round number that I can lock to (I work in whole Hz and simple fractions of a Hz) and it's a nice round number that he can generate with his GPS-locked DDS (His DDS steps in multiples of 5000000/(2^32) and 136718.75 is 5MHz*7/256.