Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0F6943800012F; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S39Q2-0002EO-2x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:03:54 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S39Q1-0002EF-Kk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:03:53 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>) id 1S39Pz-0000Ah-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:03:53 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0KALWrT09cF/n2/2dsb2JhbABDiWqpDwOBA4EIgXgFAQEFCAEBAzwNAiwBAQMFAgEDEQQBAQEJHgcUAQQIEgYNCQgGEwkBAQICAQGHebhXiRtrQ4I1AQEGAQEGAwMBAgUBAQIBAQIDBwQCAlILAQGFAA8wAgENAQIEBgIDBAMHCgKDLwSIHIU6kwADh1SBXA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,511,1325462400"; d="scan'208";a="529430978" Received: from host-92-23-249-246.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.249.246]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 01 Mar 2012 17:03:40 +0000 Message-ID: <007101ccf7cd$3ed4c6b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> References: <Bv+qmRCkv3TPFwNs@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk><4f4f8690.a250b40a.3912.ffffc9fe@mx.google.com><1330613782.55367.YahooMailNeo@web171602.mail.ir2.yahoo.com><CAA8k23TesLY5mnaQ_n4gYaAatAFo6_3BPuO3S02=Y4451h0WEQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAMFjj73F6jvyRWCQcBLFWOwEDNdVXdLt8Bcd7QQnC=W_=3YOjw@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:03:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Special Research Permit extension Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:449983104:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4094f4fc80633db X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none The Irish Republic 500 permit is also an experimental licence and not a radio amateur licence. One licence that I hold EI2AE when first issued was an experimental licence back in 1956 and not a radio amateur radio licence like the UK. The conditions were very strick compared to the UK which was also vy strict at the time. One wrong move and the licence was gone maybe a fine for having no bicycle rear light. A radio amateur should know better. In Singapore 1968 my call was 9V1OY and to get this licence I had to take an Oath before a Magistrate, have the equipment inspected and produce my UK licence as well to prove that I was qualified. How things have changed !!!!!!!!!!!!!! g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:38 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: Special Research Permit extension Andy, > Just look at the fiasco in the US when they want to do anything out of the ordinary. Amateur licensing here has been handled by volunteer examiners for some time now not the FCC. The biggest difference is that there is nothing comparable to your NoV process for 500kHz etc, here a separate experimental license is required from the FCC. There is a big upside though to the experimental license though, while U.K. stations have 3kHz bandwidth and 10W ERP, my 500kHz experimental license allows me the use of 42kHz and 1kW ERP, and that was based on what I requested, I could have had even more bandwidth and more power and I believe that it would have been granted had I requested it. 73 Warren K2ORS On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com> wrote: > The RSGB are now delegated for a fair number of routine am. licensing jobs > that would slow down and waste Ofcom's time. The govenerment agency > doesn't need to do the administration matters. That is why we have one of > the more efficient and useful amateur licensing schemes in the world. And > why we now have a free licence for ife instead of paying an annulay renewal > > All the more reason to become a member of RSGB if you aren't already. > > Just look at the fiasco in the US when they want to do anything out of the > ordinary. > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > > > > On 1 March 2012 14:56, M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> I am not sure this is right going through a non government agency for a >> permit which should only be issued my the Government establishment... call >> me old fashioned. >> >> >> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX >> From: James Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2012, 14:24 >> Subject: LF: RE: Special Research Permit extension >> >> Mine too! 15 seconds!! >> >> See you Sunday!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of David Pratt >> Sent: 01 March 2012 13:39 >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: LF: Special Research Permit extension >> >> An instant extension to my 501-504kHz NoV has been received by e-mail >> attachment following completion of the form at http://www.rsgb.org/500 >> >> 73 de David G4DMP >> -- >> + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + >> | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | >> | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | >> + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + >> >> >> >> >> > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1