Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15223 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 08:45:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 19 May 2000 08:45:09 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12siHH-0005HJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 May 2000 09:37:03 +0100 Received: from tk1.ihug.co.nz ([203.29.160.13] helo=smtp1.ihug.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12siHC-0005HD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 May 2000 09:36:58 +0100 Received: from tractorb (p4-max8.chc.ihug.co.nz [209.77.128.196]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id UAA29080 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 20:36:27 +1200 Message-ID: <007101bfc16d$448312e0$c4804dd1@tractorb> From: "Dave Brown" To: "rsgblf" References: <28528.200005171129@gemini> Subject: LF: Re: Puckeridge Decca station - Big & small antennas Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:35:55 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Jim Probably not this time, but a suggestion for perhaps next time you go to Puckeridge. I mentioned this to Derek Atter, after I saw the picture of the antenna, as a possibility for an interesting experimental comparison. Basically, as the antenna is set up, it appears to be a vertical elongated umbrella structure with the eight downwires or 'top loading' wires extended down nearly to ground level, quite close in to the mast proper. The reasons for this were explained on the reflector some time back. I am interested to know what the effect of temporarily connecting the bottom ends of all eight down wires back to the insulated tower base might be. The screening effect of all those down wires should be significant. By connecting them to the tower base they should then become part of a somewhat 'thicker' vertical structure with no downwire screening. I expect that you would then need more inductive loading, BUT it would be very interesting to see what the remote (ie far field) field strength did. Unless there is something very 'cunning' in the design of the antenna (which I doubt, given the history of the present day structure!) my guess is that it would go up, but I have no idea by how much. Just a thort! Good luck with the experiment this time. 73 Dave, ZL3FJ