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X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006b01cb7857$f564e870$4001a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <4CCAED49.6030007@o2.ie> <4CCC2277.9040801@o2.ie> <045201cb7844$ca1df020$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:04:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.2001 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.2001 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 101030-0, 30/10/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RFspace SDR-IQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40914ccc565937ef X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Clemens, you seem to impute that there are no shortcommings in dire= ct sampling! :-)) I suspect there are, but they are just "different". You may= be right about the units mentioned, but it is just as easy to make a poor= ly preforming DSP radio as to make a poor analogue one. We are in danger= of being conditioned to accept that "digital" is the magic dust that solv= es all problems......it is definitely not so! Having said that, the performance of some units is quite remarkable an= d I do own a couple very good conventional receivers. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Clemens Paul" To: Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 4:11 PM Subject: Re: LF: RFspace SDR-IQ > Tony, > > the most important difference between SDR-IQ/-IP(from RF Space) > or Perseus and the $200 SDR on > http://www.lazydogengineering.com/LD-1A_SDR.html > is that the latter is no direct sampling receiver. > It uses a downconverting technique with a number of shortcomings,e.g= . > phase noise of the LO and others. > I would go for a direct sampling SDR like those e.g. from RF space= or > Perseus. > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Tony" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: LF: RFspace SDR-IQ > > > > Thanks guys. > > > > You have just tipped the balance for me and I shall be placing an > > order > > for one on Monday morning. > > It's about time I joined the 21st century, but it will be > > interesting to > > compare it to my beloved FT 102 rx. > > > > Tony, EI8JK. > > > > > > On 29/10/2010 16:50, Tony wrote: > >> Hello group. > >> > >> Has anyone any experience with this SDR ? > >> It looks interesting and I'm a bit tempted, especially as it work= s > >> full spec down to 500 Hz and "usable" to 100 Hz. > >> But as I have never used an SDR, I haven't got a clue if it's any > >> good > >> or not. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ ------ > > > > Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. > Von AVG =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de > Version: 9.0.864 / Virendatenbank: 271.1.1/3226 - Ausgabedatum: > 10/29/10 20:34:00 > >