X-GM-THRID: 1235084263987129999 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.35.22.5 with SMTP id z5cs370782pyi; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.92.9 with SMTP id u9mr1794235ugl.1177868141636; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 24si5138771ugf.2007.04.29.10.35.38; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HiDHK-00013L-H9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:33:42 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HiDHK-00013C-45 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:33:42 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HiDHI-0003Lh-S2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:33:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 70306 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2007 17:33:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=MEmcInEqBSrsm6hBIZFvHqEn9hWkA0kgi/aDrj4xF13tOM4J+NQBiBQ7B4F39X/ABCwApM4ijhXJaGZNg3IqSz+8DOSE3txjiNj24GLr9gggDB5nBAUyjRxNbthYZvu3UrefjyD5AlXDrrVnwa8y9z42R/m0ol9oxE5MNnJYFFI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.26.130 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2007 17:33:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 6L41x7oVM1nEHvraEj_ZDe1MywCYArc0dMixNIRQGhrSwWLrsYXruAFROcjFc1rtMXu76jJubrtl_JPNy1yxDZOa7OgIEwziTJXG7YTK.f.Cjj93PNgfzy0W1tk- Message-ID: <006a01c78a84$87d2be00$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:33:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 ERP calculation Spreadsheet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1924 Hi All, this geriatric ol' twit made another mistake !! Thanks to Peter G3VVT who bother to check my answers again Kraus ( I cant argue against that !!) another small error has surfaced. It is to do with the "form-factor" which should have been squared because it refers to the real height of the vertical which is squared in the equation for Radiation Resistance. As it happens it make a very small difference to most people who have a top length of equal or greater than the height because then the FF is close to unity ( and unity squared is unity !!) However I did issue another sheet to a few who were working with no top load, it is on aerials like this the error is most relevant. Fortunately it reduces the Radiation resistance and allow you to run even more aerial current before exceeding the -10dBW !! The new version is now loaded to my web site http://www.btinternet.com/~alan.melia/programs.htm And I will add a reference to enable the other version (ERP2.xls) to be downloaded. Sorry pardon, just crank the current up a bit !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK