Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7971 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 21:43:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 21:43:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 29681 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 21:43:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 21:43:04 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VfyH-0003Pn-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:39:17 +0000 Received: from fep01.swip.net ([130.244.199.129] helo=fep01-svc.swip.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VfyG-0003Pi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:39:16 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.101.37.35]) by fep01-svc.swip.net with SMTP id <20020129213826.KWIH1021.fep01-svc.swip.net@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:38:26 +0100 Message-ID: <006a01c1a90d$5d304cc0$6e2465d5@oemcomputer> From: "Johan Bodin" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020128115929.00ab3b90@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.0.20020129144512.02f80bf0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Subject: Re: LF: PSK31 generation Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:38:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear Jim & the LF group Jim wrote: > It would take a little care to implement though; if the drive to only one > of the totem poles was varied in phase, changing the output amplitude would > also change the output phase, introducing up to 90 degrees unwanted > additional phase modulation into the signal. This could be avoided by > shifting the phase of both drive signals by equal and opposite amounts. You are right. I didn't think of that... I did a little trig math and came to the same conclusion. Looking only at the first term of the Fourier series, the fundamental frequency, the voltage difference between the totem pole midpoints is cos(wt) - cos(wt+p) (assuming a supply voltage of 1V...) where w=2*pi*f and p is the phase difference between the totem poles. Knowing that cos(a) - cos(b) = -2 * sin ((a+b)/2) * sin ((a-b)/2), I inserted wt and wt+p and got -2 * sin (wt + p/2) * sin (p/2) The first sin(...) is the "oscillating part" and the second sin(...) is the amplitude. It is evident from "wt + p/2" that the phase of the resulting signal is shifted 0..90 deg's as the totem pole phase diff' goes from 0..180 deg's (or perhaps the other way around, I don't care about signs right now, phase is a relative thing). The amplitude is indeed a function of sin (p/2) as Claudio, IN3OTD, wrote yesterday. I can't see why an amplitude -> phase lookup table should be such a nightmare? I think that this could work well if the series resonant tank is given some more of vitamin Q, less C / more L. I have the feeling that MOSFETs are probably better than bipolars in this case since the transistors will (probably) be exposed to "backward currents" somewhere in the cycle, even in the R+j0 tuned case. MOSFETs will happily conduct backwards in the "ON state" while bipolar transistors in totem poles need "antiparallel" diodes with increased losses as result. (Yes, I am obsessed by the thought of 100% efficiency ;-) 73 Johan SM6LKM