Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26593 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2004 21:02:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Aug 2004 21:02:00 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1Btur4-000KCd-Q7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:05:23 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1Btur4-000KCY-HI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:05:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Btunn-000DTS-Eh for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:01:59 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Btund-00032L-7X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:01:49 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Btunc-00032C-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:01:48 +0100 Received: from outbound04.telus.net ([199.185.220.223] helo=priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BtunT-0003Ji-Qm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:01:48 +0100 Received: from cognizant1 ([216.232.223.132]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20040808210131.OQDE22120.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@cognizant1> for ; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 15:01:31 -0600 Message-ID: <006801c47d8a$e74f28a0$0201a8c0@private.network> From: "Scott Tilley" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101c47d2a$6c5ab980$a3197ad5@jgtdiynm> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 14:01:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.869,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: AR88LF on 136kHz Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
I've been using an AR-88LF since I was a kid for NDB dxing...  I finished restoring mine last year and it spends most of its time these days lurking in the NDB band as a quick and dirty way to tune around to see what's going on...
 
73 Scott
 
----- Original Message -----
From: James Moritz
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 2:30 AM
Subject: LF: AR88LF on 136kHz

Dear LF Group,
 
I bought a rather battered AR88LF at a rally a few years ago - This version of the AR88 has an LF band covering 75 - 200kHz, so it is potentially useable for amateur LF. I had not really tried it seriously, so with all the pining for good olde days that has been going on lately, I dragged it out of the shed to see what could be done with it.
 
After replacing the usual catalogue of leaky capacitors, temporarily bypassing a broken IF transformer, and peaking up the IF amplifier, the sensitivity was good - 0.3uV gave a good audible signal. The input impedance on 136k is quite high, something of the order of 1kohm. Connecting a 200pF capacitor in series with the sig gen to simulate the source impedance of a long wire antenna only reduced the signal level by a few dB, so it should be possible to connect the RX directly to such an antenna and get good sensitivity without additional matching components (allthough this does not work at my QTH - you get about 100V of 909kHz from Brookmans Park at the RX input...)
 
The selectivity was poor however. The IF frequency is 735kHz, so one can expect worse selectivity than other old RXs with 455kHz IF. This meant that when tuned to 136kHz, large signals from DCF39 and the Datatrack beacons just outside the band pass through the IF and intermodulate together at the detector, producing lots of heterodyne whistles even with the BFO switched off, as G3GVB mentioned. It has a single crystal filter, but this did not seem to make much difference. However, this proved to be due to mis-alignment - I think every receiver with one of these single-crystal filters I have ever encountered has been wrongly aligned. Partly it is due to ageing I'm sure, but also I expect a lot of over-enthusiastic fiddling has gone on over the years! The main problem was the 'phasing' trimmer, which was a long way from where it needed to be. After a lot of re-tweaking, the -3dB bandwidth on the narrowest position was only about 200Hz. This proved good enough to get rid of the worst of the whistles, however, the skirt selectivity is still not good enough really - with the RX tuned to 136.5kHz, the best I could get was about 40dB rejection of DCF39 on 138.83kHz, which still gives quite a loud whistle above the band noise.
 
So I decided to graft on an audio filter from a CR100 receiver, which happened to be lying around. I connected this between the 1st audio stage and the audio output stage; allthough really just a lash-up it works quite well. I also increased the amount of BFO injection. On the AR88 the BFO signal is injected into the final IF amplifier using just stray capacitance between the wiring. I added an extra bit of wire to increased the rectified voltage at the detector from 4V to about 15V. The idea of this was to make the BFO signal much larger than the unwanted signals at the IF output, and so hopefully reduce the amount of audible intermodulation products produced - It seems to work. It does mean that the AGC has to be switched off, otherwise the BFO signal causes a big reduction in gain. The best way to set the controls is with the AF gain set to as high a level as possible without producing excessive receiver noise, and then controlling the gain with the RF gain control. This ensures the lowest possible signal levels at the detector, reducing the likelihood of IF or detector being overloaded by strong out-of-band signals.
 
The end result works quite well. This morning, when the QRN was relatively low, it was possible to hear the Loran chatter above the band noise, with only faint whistles from out of band stations, so sensitivity ought to be adequate for most things. The warm-up drift is a few 100Hz, but after it has been running for a few hours, the frequency only wobbles about by several Hz, so in fact it is adequate for QRSS3 reception. When I get round to doing a proper job, I will add a product detector (probably using the socket of the not-very-useful noise limiter valve). Also, the CR100 audio filter is really too narrow - with 100Hz bandwidth, it is quite hard to get the BFO pitch just right so that the peak of the IF response coincides with the peak of the audio response, and it has to be re-adjusted due to drift of the BFO. A filter with 200 - 400Hz bandwidth would be better.
 
Obviopusly, an AR88LF is not as good as a modern receiver. But with some simple mods it is certainly usable. I think mostly the same considerations apply to other old equipment, such as the HRO and CR100 when used on LF.
 
Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU