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From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:58:37 -0000
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Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz
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John, LF,

Please don't allow mails from short sighted & self centred users drive you 
away from this facet (or any other part) of the hobby.

As far as I & many others are concerned you are offering an excellent 
facility which I use many many times.

Each of us gets enjoyment from the hobby in their own way & it should be 
left that way.

We all have our idealist thoughts but don't place pressure others to follow.

73 & Regards,

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pumford-Green GM4SLV" <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz


>
> LF group.
>
> Sorry about the tone of this posting. It will probably be my last
> message to the LF reflector. I have better, more enjoyable things to do
> with my time.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mal,
>
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:03:50 -0000
> "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Give the appliance operating a rest, give the hooving and window
>> cleaning a break and try a bit of cw operating.
>
> If you mean "RST 549 WX SUN QRU 73" which typifies most of your QSOs
> then I'd rather do the hoovering...
>
>
>> > However, I'm glad others find my investment of radio hardware, PCs &
>> > internet bandwidth of value to their own experiments.
>>
>> A broadband qso is ideal for the appliance operator, what would we do
>> without it , probably revert to real radio like building a valve tx/rx
>> system.
>
> I've never had a "Broadband QSO". I have had 129 QSOs, all hand sent CW
> - no "appliance operating" - even my only QRSS contact was hand sent on
> a straight key.
>
> I've got a QSL card from Jack VE1ZZ for the first ever VE/GM x-band
> 500kHz QSO too if you only consider DX to be of any value.
>
> As to building valve tx/rx systems.... nice to see you keeping up with
> the march of technology. I'm sure the men from OFCOM will be impressed
> to see the Special Research Permits issued to "cutting edge" amateur
> radio operators, allowing them to experiment with this allocation, are
> being used to push the boundaries of radio design!
>
>
>
> However - I ask you a direct question, Mal... what do you provide back
> to the MF community during all the hours in the day that you're away
> from the shack?
>
> Apart from emailed taunts, jibes and snide comments?
>
> At least by offering a receiver up for public consumption the grabber
> operators do something for the benefit of others.
>
> Until you're personally prepared to devote hardware, and the time to
> keep it all running, rebooting PCs whenever necessary etc. so that
> others can make use of your station (when you're not there to operate)
> then I suggest you refrain from commenting on the usefulness, as you
> perceive it, of the grabbers that others have selflessly provided,
> freely, for you to use.
>
>
> If you think they're of no benefit to you,then by all means DON'T LOOK
> AT THEM, but at the same time SHUT UP ABOUT THEM too.
>
>
> As to you "helpful" email contibutions to the LF reflector and your
> on-air behaviour - I've had several private emails directly citing your
> snide comments, public snubbing on-air and generally less then helpful
> demeanour as being the deciding factor in them pulling out of 500kHz
> operating altogether.
>
> If you want to know why activity is low I suggest you look closer to
> home than to the "appliance operators" you so love to denigrate.
>
> John GM4SLV
>
>
>