Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (rly-dg06.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.90]) by air-dg05.mail.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILINDG054-5cf4a644a031b3; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:42:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg06.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG062-5cf4a644a031b3; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:42:13 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MSqIm-00045x-Ol for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:41:00 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MSqIm-00045o-7t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:41:00 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MSqIi-0000Pt-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:40:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 36955 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2009 10:40:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=xOvZ7qhBZXOMr7Eg9dbaMOTB6KsBwGMrerV8ktZDTNB4sUMkNlHZzDHej+1+a1xLWczFVjSvZF9fIDZBBLJlnhRDmnBEmYXWloUbDt7psp57E07JqpfOzXme/EHjkx/WZOJqoI9NwI8FQPuvEKjVm4Xr/QxYVtngzlcousRSTjA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@213.122.9.36 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2009 10:40:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: KHdpK2OswBBXlm4uxknbEiS4uYdJoGknHN90u4K8__lTafnafZg- X-YMail-OSG: k5EOopkVM1kBckWb.dLQGMLyjX6q22TRGxqEkfRLajgh70xgkKpTZLMD52Y1mGqX5bgy_bufFVTafU_RRadMniVBOr03OI6S4ACy0P1k2JSuBAeEjH6TwbC_lzdFF0SVfimCziqJQc5ApCkEplLKB44RqWE1NTwfsm.Po_fzvyriHKngYzyIe2FGxK_Eo__8vJx..JWBkXP42Uu5Wf17jdTjULbbL8Tce.RL19JDjQrODAQJGXOzORLJ3cMbCGNjodc2YUpPxLAXii93puTFxLcZTP.Wx8aSrZ5VQVyRDnNMYlVLabZWk2HLg6ChHmswCfaalC4OhvYbfnw2O5bCu9lJh9v04I8KQYM._Za_rg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006501ca0926$8f4743e0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <000001ca0922$9cf3c580$6401a8c0@asus> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:40:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 504khz harmonic. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Gary, the mini-whip is not bad but where you are located it could be the size of the 252 signal is producing some intermod/harmonics. Do you get the same effect on a wire, or passive antenna? I havent tried this but it may be possible to inprove the IMD performance by paralleling a pair of J310s in the miniwhip, at the expense of increased current drain. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: "LF -RSGB LF Group" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: LF: 504khz harmonic. > Hi All, > > > > Occasionally recently I have been seeing strange patterns around the > harmonic line received on my SpecLab grabbers on 504kHz from the broadcast > station at 252kHz. > > > > The patterns are not just seen using the Softrock SDR Rx but also with my > JRC NRD-345, the only common device is the Mini-Whip active antenna. > > > > I seem to remember some while ago comments on this LF Forum regarding that > station carrying out some experiments or tests involving digital data or > something similar. > > > > I wonder if this is an effect of those tests as there were concerns that it > may cause interference on the 500kHz amateur band. > > > > Capture attached. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary - G4WGT - IO83QO. > > > > > I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. > It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter > p&url=freespamfilter> >