Return-Path: Received: from rly-db07.mx.aol.com (rly-db07.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.82]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB012-ad7495658123e5; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:30:14 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB075-ad7495658123e5; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:30:12 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LGc2o-0006LH-UW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LGc2o-0006L8-HF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-2.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.232] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LGc2n-0006HD-Mm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEABPnVUlOkKB4/2dsb2JhbACEVLg3WI8ihkQ Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([78.144.160.120]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2008 16:29:35 +0000 Message-ID: <006501c96840$4ddd6380$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <495466BF.9080402@yahoo.com> <49564E54.2060402@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:29:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: WSPR and CW Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Have ur EARS checked out, ASYMETRICAL ears do not work on weak signals. Any wspr signals that I have observed were visible on screen before they printed out and could be easily read had the signal been sending in QRS mode. Your observations are not accurate. If you check visibility of wspr you will find that it can be seen when it is not printing out. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: LF: WSPR and CW > This afternoon I tried to receive something at 10,140.2 kHz in WSPR mode. > I'm being a bit OT here, as that frequency is not classifiable as LF, but > the results are directly applicable also to the 137 and 500 kHz segments. > > I received, in half an hour of testing, the stations reported below. > Listening to what I was receiving, *NOTHING* could be heard, > only background noise, as those stations were well below the noise. > > So the claims that CW can do what WSPR can, are *completely* unfounded. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > 1506 -10 3.5 10.140138 3 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1506 -26 1.4 10.140190 4 IK5FKF JN54 37 > 1508 -26 1.4 10.140242 1 K1JT FN20 37 > 1510 -10 1.3 10.140130 1 OY4TN IP62 33 > 1512 -14 3.5 10.140148 1 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1512 -20 1.3 10.140205 0 G4TRA IO81 30 > 1516 -16 1.7 10.140196 0 RA6AS KN93 37 > 1520 -17 1.4 10.140136 0 OY4TN IP62 33 > 1520 -24 1.3 10.140210 0 G4TRA IO81 30 > 1522 -31 3.5 10.140153 0 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1522 -26 1.3 10.140250 -1 ZL3IN RE66 30 > 1528 -29 0.5 10.140217 0 HB9TJM JN36 37 > 1528 -29 1.4 10.140253 0 K1JT FN20 37 > 1530 -23 3.4 10.140155 0 EB1APK IN73 20 > 1530 -27 1.8 10.140271 0 VK2SRO QF56 37 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM