Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2890 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 15:43:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 15:43:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 27112 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 15:37:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 15:37:49 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14MAm6-0004HJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:26:54 +0000 Received: from tomts5.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.25] helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14MAm2-0004H2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:26:50 +0000 Received: from server1 ([209.226.189.145]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010126152607.NUWS27935.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@server1> for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:26:07 -0500 Message-ID: <006301c087ac$296df2d0$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> From: "Larry Kayser" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <65AECDF1F89AD411900400508BFC869F0D7567@pdw-mail-1.dera.gov.uk> <3A715673.2CDC243F@usa.net> Subject: LF: Minimalist QSO, a process Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:22:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Greetings All: After consultation with a number of peers I propose the following as the minimum for a QSO validation over the North Atlantic on LF. Step 1 M0BMU VA3LK va3lk sending Step 2 VA3LK M0BMU O m0bmu sending Step 3 RO O va3lk sending Step 4 RO m0bmu sending Step 5 E E va3lk sending Step 6 E E m0bmu sending I used Jim's call for example purposes only The timing, 15 minute windows etc, is independant of this process Explanation Step 1, va3lk sends continuosly calls m0bmu Step 2, m0bmu has seen the Step 1 and responds with full calls and sends "o" Step 3, va3lk has seen the full calls and the "o", acknowledges the "o" with "ro" and send and "o" Step 4, mobmu sees the "ro" which acknowledges the "o" sent in step 2, and sends and "o" Step 5, courtesy, va3lk acknowledges the "ro" and signs off with "ee" Step 6, courtesy, mobmu acknowledges the "o" and signs off "ee" There are more or less 250 bits of information in this exchange, with 90 second dits the process is just over 6 hours to send. A more advanced coding schema is needed to compress this information exchange into about 2 hours or less. va3lk will present a novel FSK schema to accomplish this requirement asap. Every effort has been made to first minimize the number of bits exchanged but to also ensure that the basic minima for a valid QSO in the minds of a large number of radio amateurs has been maintained. Comments issues etc to myself please. Larry VA3LK