X-GM-THRID: 1236088949262680120 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.1 with SMTP id u1cs308710hue; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.201.15 with SMTP id y15mr750794huf.1178880202245; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u6si7160617uge.2007.05.11.03.43.19; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HmSXz-0004jj-Hb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:40:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HmSXz-0004ja-5y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:40:27 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HmSXy-0003Ql-5U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:40:27 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-216.fen-net.de [212.204.117.96]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id l4BAZG2V020452 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:35:17 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <005d01c793b9$59687800$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:44:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on helene.f3n.de X-Virus-Status: Clean X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by hugo.fen-net.de id l4BAZG2V020452 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 kHz license refused in the Netherlands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1683 Thanks, Dick , for info. Very sorry, indeed. 73 Walter -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Dick Rollema An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Hans Blondeel Timmerman ; Dick Harms Datum: Freitag, 11. Mai 2007 11:00 Betreff: Re: LF: Re: 500 kHz license refused in the Netherlands >Walter, DI2AG/DJ2LF wrote: >: >>Dear Dick, >> sorry about the bad news. But - how about asking your radio age= ncy >>for a test- and research permit? >Dear Walter, > >That is exactly what I did, with accent on the research of skywave >propagation and on the reliability of daytime communication using small power. > >It is queer that the reasons for refusal: >* The band is national and international not an amateur band >* The band is still used for emergency, urgent and safety messages >are just as valid for Germany, UK, Sweden and USA and in these >countries this is not a reason for refusing permission to use the >band for research and experiments. >I had also stated I wanted the permission for a limited period, >preferably one year. So the agency could always revoke the permission >after that period. >But being a small country our administration is always very >cautious and not inclined to be at the forefront on subjects that >have not been agreed upon between a large number of countries in CEPT >or similar organisations. > >But who knows what the future may bring. Our 136 kHz permission also >came rather late. > >73, Dick, PA0SE > > >