Return-Path: Received: (qmail 33617 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2005 20:50:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jan 2005 20:50:12 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CrjBs-000AbT-2k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:46:06 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CrjBs-000AbQ-04 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:46:04 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CrjFp-0005xj-0c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:50:09 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CrjDL-000293-FG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CrjDL-00028u-2W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:35 +0000 Received: from mail-public.northwestel.net ([198.235.201.66] helo=yk-pvtmailprd-01.internal.messaging) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrjDI-0003JB-Hp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:35 +0000 Received: from yk-asavprd-01.northwestel.net ([172.19.112.40]) by yk-pvtmailprd-01.internal.messaging (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 Patch 1 (built Jan 28 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IAM00J1PV2TMIQ1@yk-pvtmailprd-01.internal.messaging> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:47:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yk-asavprd-01.northwestel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0KKlHOY010312 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:47:17 -0700 Received: from yk-asavprd-01.northwestel.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (yk-asavprd-01 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08635-05-2 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:47:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from eagles (whthyt032-92.northwestel.net [205.234.32.92]) by yk-asavprd-01.northwestel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j0KKj6vw009391 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:45:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:45:01 +0000 From: "J. Allen" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <005c01c4ff30$ea189850$6401a8c0@eagles> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at northwestel.net References: <000001c4fef3$bba4e330$e6a4c593@RD40002> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 198.235.201.66 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of northwestel.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Coil Winding2, de VY1JA Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dear Jim, and all the others who replied, Thank you for your responses. I am building the interim loading coil as a solenoid, because of simplicity and materials available, which include: PVC Formers: qty L D 1 70 cm 27cm. 2 100cm 32cm. 1 84 cm 32 cm. and 50 lb. #17 magnet wire, insulated with Formvar. I bought the magnet wire for scrap copper, because the reel it was on had broken and it needs to be unscrambled. The task is turning out to be much easier than I first thought. Alex's calculation of my antenna system indicates that a base loading coil of 700 Ohms is needed. I was thinking of reducing the solenoid loss by paralleling two or more #17 wires and close-winding them. If I parallel wind three #17 wires will it be worth the effort in reducing coil loss or does a simple coil with only one #17 conductor make any sense here? I will be running 200 W for now. How do I calculate and decide which form to use if I use three #17 wires in a flat and close wound configuration, and want to end up with 700 Ohms? The suggestion that I add a few taps is good... but I will not need the fine taps because I have two very large, edge wound roller inductors to use for fine tuning. Thanks again, J. "J"