Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7340 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2001 18:49:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Jan 2001 18:49:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 216 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2001 18:52:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 4 Jan 2001 18:52:01 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EFNX-00014y-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 18:44:47 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.15]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14EFNW-00014r-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 18:44:46 +0000 Received: from xtr743187 ([202.27.178.5]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010104184404.BWJE7911321.mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:44:04 +1300 Message-ID: <005c01c0767e$ffaa94a0$05b21bca@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <98.ec1517f.27851f1b@aol.com> <000801c075fb$20171a80$66b51bca@xtr743187> <3A545A59.323AC1AD@usa.net> Subject: LF: Re: RE: Freq stability Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:46:48 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Alberto, > Vernall wrote: > > The TVNZ nationwide network, with two Tv channels, has a Rubidium source for > > timing. > > In Italy, the state-owned TV broadcaster RAI has all its timings locked to a central > Caesium standard, in Rome. Or at least so I have been told by a former RAI employee. > I'm wondering if some simple circuit diagram is to be found somewhere, to receive and > recover the synch timings, without using a real TV, bulky and noisy. > > 73 > Alberto I2PHD Alberto, The relatively simple circuits I am aware of need a good quality composite video signal to start with, then use line synch pulses to phase lock a local 10 MHz oscillator. There was a circuit in Radcom a couple of years back, which seemed to be very similar to an Electronics Australia project from 1993. The composite video could come from a VCR rather than a TV set. Running an actual TV set in the shack would generally be shooting oneself in the foot for LF QRM :-( Also you likely need much better than a piece of wet string for the TV antenna, as noise or ghosting on the received video will not result in a lab standard for the reference signal. 73, Bob