Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13582 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2002 21:06:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2002 21:06:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 19215 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2002 21:06:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2002 21:06:57 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16cwOh-0006JD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:36:35 +0000 Received: from 210-86-15-130.ipnets.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.130] helo=mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16cwOf-0006J8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:36:34 +0000 Received: from xtr743187 ([202.27.178.39]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20020218205759.SXRX12697.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:57:59 +1300 Message-ID: <005a01c1b8bf$a95d1a80$72b21bca@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <43.6bda7ba.29a15be0@aol.com> Subject: Re: LF: Soldered joints on antenna wire Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:01:10 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: John, One thing that has worried me with multistrand wire is whether there can be arcing or intermod if one conductor in the bundle has a break in continuity. This could also arise if the centre wire in a 7 strand bundle is not soldered properly. It is very hard to tell if solder has penetrated "right through", especially for wire that has been out in the open and weathered somewhat. What I am saying is that at RF there can be potential differences due to transmission line effects, and a conductor that has one end floating is like a stub, but as the gap is small it can easily arc over. Arcing could cause broadband QRM. So while soldered joints in antenna wires appear to be fair game, it would pay to have the individual wires cleaned to a "bright copper" condition before firing up the solder bolt. I have seen crimps used to join antenna wires, and crimping could be suspect for multistrand wire. I would not worry about losses in soldered joints, but as Markus has commented, corrosion could be a limitation in the longer term. In any case, you will probably want to experiment with changes to your antenna well before corrosion has a chance to show up :-) 73, Bob ZL2CA