Return-Path: Received: (qmail 65008 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2004 18:23:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2004 18:23:39 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BmzHM-000KVO-VV for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:23:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BmzHM-000KVB-Rr for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:23:52 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BmzH6-000EnR-Rj for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:23:36 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BmzGi-0004t9-V6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:23:12 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BmzGi-0004t0-KE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:23:12 +0100 Received: from morse.concentric.net ([206.173.118.94]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BmzGf-0003EC-K8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:23:12 +0100 Received: from JKA (208.37.242.34.ptr.us.xo.net [208.37.242.34]) by morse.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Relay 1.1] id i6KIN2t02721 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005901c46e86$99e744c0$3401a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002f01c46df8$a3fcfec0$72cdfc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:23:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: LF: Re: Loops v Verticals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) >For those that do not know. Research around Europe has shown that VERTICALS are the only antennas suitable for Transmitting on LF. Loops are fine for Receiving, little or large but the bigger the better. Who has ever heard of a LF broadcasting station using loops for TX. < Mal, Perhaps because no LF broadcasting stations operate from small garden back yards with trees and no open space. I certainly have no quarrel with research done in Europe. Please encourage those doing it to use this forum to discuss it. Thus far, I have only seen your discouraging comments versus positive results from U.S. experimenters. John Andrews, W1TAG