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(VPS 110218-0, 18/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: HGA22 plot Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m250.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605b4d5e904f1e36 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror Yes I have never seen anything quite like that. I have seen what might be "gravity waves" in the inonosphere induced by the shock of a CME arrival. They usually look more like halfwave recified sinewaves on a log amplitude plot..........yes I made the beat 19.2 seconds. Strange. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markus Vester" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:28 PM Subject: Re: LF: HGA22 plot Thanks Dex for sharing this extremely interesting observation. My first thought was that the ripple might have been a beat pattern caused by an interfering carrier at 1/20 Hz offset. But this explanation doesn't hold, because the periodicity would have been broken up by HGA carrier spreading due to the FSK telegrams. So it has to be some propagational effect. On SXV, on rare occasions I had observed a slant color ripple pattern, i e periodic variation in the apparent direction of arrival: http://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/sxv_ripples/sxv_ripples.htm I had attributed this to an unusually late and Doppler shifted ionospheric component. There may possibly a connection to aurora, and perhaps the recent period of solar activity. However nothing unusual was seen here on LF last night. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:45 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: HGA22 plot This evening I was watching HGA22 with SpecLab plotter. When I first started the plot I noticed the signal looked as expected but when I increased the speed I saw a sine wave shape on the plot. After watching it for a while the sine wave pattern changed to a normal pattern. I wish I had made more captures of the signal but I only made one which shows the change. http://www.w4dex.com/lf/HGA22_plot_18feb11.jpg FWIW if anything, Dex