Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A77813800008C; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S22Cr-000438-Nz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:09:41 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S22Cr-00042z-0Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:09:41 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S22Cn-0001um-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:09:40 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIKAMabS09cF/ZD/2dsb2JhbABCgj+vYQKBA4EIgW4FAQEFCAEBA0kCLAEBAwUCAQMRAwEBAQolFAEEGgYWCAYTCgECAgEBh3kHt2CJD4IVgVcFARANZAsBAYUADzIBBQMFBwEDBgEDCggDAYMsBIJdinmaVQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,491,1325462400"; d="scan'208,217";a="376851988" Received: from host-92-23-246-67.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.246.67]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 27 Feb 2012 15:09:30 +0000 Message-ID: <005701ccf561$cd9d4250$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <74845C11BC3444D79B63A207E428BDE0@lindavideo> <1205576556-1330352309-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-124445598-@b27.c11.bise7.blackberry> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:09:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01CCF561.CD582300" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:507877056:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404a4f4b9d0f5e04 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CCF561.CD582300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The band should be licensed for CW operators only so that they could = recognize and read the CW beacons and AVOID them. Has OFCOM thought of this. Neither should there be any amateur = unattended BEACONS to jam the Primary user Beacons even unintentionally. g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ken.h.wright@btinternet.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation Hi all. Following on from Tracey's info what would be the various = regulators reaction be if we were crowded out of this band as we only = have on a secondary basis. 73. Ken. M00KHW Sent from my BlackBerry=AE wireless device -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: "Tracey Gardner" =20 Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:50:43 -0000 To: ReplyTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation Hello Ken I doubt it, but you never know. I've just checked our Received In Europe (REU) database and there are = some 29 inactive NDBs listed in the 472-479kHz range.=20 If they were all to become active that would roughly double the number = of NDBs in that segment. http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/ 73s Tracey G5VU ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:06 AM Subject: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation Dear all LFs =20 With the WRC-12 new LF band allocation is it possible that any = dormant NDBs there will be resurrected to justify their slot in the = band?=20 =20 73s =20 Ken =20 M0KHW ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01CCF561.CD582300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The band should be licensed for CW operators = only so that=20 they could recognize and read the CW  beacons and AVOID = them.
Has OFCOM thought of this.  Neither = should there=20 be any amateur unattended BEACONS to jam the Primary user Beacons = even=20 unintentionally.
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ken.h.wright@btinternet.com=20
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 = 2:20=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: NDBs & = WRC-12 LF=20 band allocation

Hi all. Following on from Tracey's info what would be = the=20 various regulators reaction be if we were crowded out of this band as = we only=20 have on a secondary basis. 73. Ken. M00KHW
Sent from my BlackBerry=AE wireless device
From: "Tracey Gardner" <tracey.gardner@talktalk.net>=20
Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:50:43 -0000
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
ReplyTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band = allocation

Hello Ken
 
I doubt it, but you never know.
I've just checked our Received In Europe (REU) database and there = are=20 some 29 inactive NDBs listed in the 472-479kHz range.
If they were all to become active that would roughly double the = number of=20 NDBs in that segment.
 
http://www.classaxe.com/dx/n= db/reu/
 
73s Tracey G5VU
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Monday, February 27, = 2012 10:06=20 AM
Subject: LF: NDBs & = WRC-12 LF band=20 allocation

Dear all=20 LFs

 

With the WRC-12 new LF = band=20 allocation is it possible that any dormant NDBs there will be = resurrected to=20 justify their slot in the band?

 

73s

 

Ken

 

M0KHW

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