Return-Path: Received: from rly-db01.mx.aol.com (rly-db01.mail.aol.com [172.19.130.76]) by air-db07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB073-aa4480d12f018f; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:19:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-db01.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDB012-aa4480d12f018f; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:19:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Jo4Lc-0003U8-Ra for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:18:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Jo4Lb-0003Tz-Ts for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:18:51 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jo4LY-0001NI-KB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:18:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 70795 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2008 22:18:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=04iFLGAfUBFFODXy4mUZwmU2Ha4+Zk5sszAiiL1A/dxhRF3ohMOTURS9R9HBmiVbYEhHvJwDsSVFyBtPwD6HjynfPqu5RStslfs4O/jxpw8ATRlf4y0FfBJZ2BYxqWDMcraaotNVukWr8X8WuwpeQQHDsLMBeH9Qh4kaRsTqqKk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.69.148 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2008 22:18:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CEhVh4IVM1k.Ztwu2arz4_fMMICMEJhdW3xEmlqRO94y9FpAf899X1w23ZbQRhF1sEVYxONbIw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005601c8a3fd$aaebe9a0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:18:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.402 Subject: LF: Reflector problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi all, I think thanks to a comment from David I may have realised what has happened on the reflector.....I think the parameters may have been changed within the last few months....probably as a further defence against the growing tide of spam. There is a danger if we unkowingly reflect these messages that we will get blacklisted by other isps. This happened to John Davis who runs the LowFer list at LWCA and cause many hours of work solving the probles and keeping the list flying when they were using majordomo software. It is likely that messages containing hyperlinks or fragments that look like commands may not be reflected. there is no error messge the messgae is just dumped by the controller software. If anyone has further trouble I am happy to try and collate reports and channel them through to the webmaster. I suggest reports directly to my personal address alan.melia (at) btinternetdottcom ...you will know how to enter that munged address correctly. To Dave's comment I dont think Yahoo is any better it has had some pretty bad problems over the last year or so, and there is quite a lot of resistance to their intrusive registration data requirements. I have also been trying to get them to sort out a faulty spam filter system for 9 months now (it worked brilliantly for 5 years and the suddenly started trapping messages from approved addresses despite intensive "retaining" ) and they will not reply to messages with anything sensible. At least I think we can get this one sorted now (I hope !!) Cheers de Alan G3NYK