Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14761 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2001 13:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Feb 2001 13:12:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 4758 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2001 13:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 16 Feb 2001 13:12:42 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14TkUI-0007wK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:59:50 +0000 Received: from tomts7.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.40] helo=tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14TkUH-0007wE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:59:49 +0000 Received: from server1 ([216.209.138.103]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010216125902.DFUV4700.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@server1> for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:59:02 -0500 Message-ID: <005501c09817$f2644060$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> From: "Larry Kayser" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <21031.200102151453@gemini> <001e01c097f9$e3ddf900$83ce28c3@ericadodd> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Insulator problems Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:56:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Jim and Peter: > I use PA0SE dog bone insulators, which are excellent for QRO using small > antennas. The insulators were fixed to supports using 2mm nylon cord. > Twice now the antenna has come down because of a failure in the nylon cord. > At the point of the break there is no indication of any burning but the ends > of the nylon cord, where the break occurred, are hard rather than frayed. First Jim, I am a bit thick I am unable to visualize your wire loop concept. When I used, 40+ years ago, high power on 3.7 MHz AM mobile, I had corona problems that were mitigated by welding a copper penny on the end of the whip. Are you suggesting to just hang a wire loop at the end of a point in the wire to perform a similar disipation function? Peter, my situation here is the same with a variation. I use yellow polypropelene (sic?) rope, it rots in the sun fairly fast but usually my antennas change far more often than the rope fails hi, and I found not only a "welded end" but I also found considerable stretching due to heat in the last foot or so to the insulator. One kind soul offered that the insulator fractured because of the effects of small shot from a shotgun shell but the insulator failed in long shards (as glass has been known to do) rather than the powder associated with the effect of a projectile. Larry VA3LK