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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:42:21 -0000
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Correct !! especially over your way but in the UK the Appliance Operator
punter thinks only in terms of uWatts. Just read the emails on here.
de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats?


Mal,

      I know some hams here that seem interested in 500kHz but when
they find out the ARRL experimental license is for 20W ERP CW, PSK and
WSPR on a total band of 27kHz they lose interest.

 I image that even fewer will be interested in 5W and 8 kHz

--
73 Warren K2ORS
WD2XGJ
WD2XSH/23
WE2XEB/2
WE2XGR/1



On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Warren
> At the present time it is a Bodge anyway. I can understand the commercial
> interest, also a lot of Hams are not really interested in the band. There
> are only about 3 UK stns that I hear on the odd time in QSO mode, a few
> others around EU are belching out beacons and QSL via internet, hardly
> impressive to those that issue Permits. If the plug was pulled I would not
> be too concerned because 160 metres is similar but has a big occupancy
with
> QSO MODE being the norm, mostly CW with some SSB.
> On LF it is the same tale, although this is now an International band
there
> is very little interest, in fact the band occupancy has gone down over the
> years.
> It is now the same half dozen on the band daily and mostly Beacon mode qsl
> via internet. The odd QRS 600000000000 does take place but virtually no
CW.
> At present I would say that LF es MF is a total waste of time and effort
> I have 4 nice Decca amps Hi Band for 137 going Rusty!!!!!!! in spite of
this
> I am still using my 1Kw h/brew. CQ on CW but no replies.
>
> mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats?
>
>
> Mal,
>
> The maritime industry trade group has been pushing back against
> hams on 500kHz in the hope that they can persuade governments to fund
> a new relatively broadband data service there.
> The maritime group has standing with CEPT and the ITU and they
> apparently have money and effective lobbyists behind them, the hams on
> the other hand are left to pick up scraps that fall off the table and
> are expected to be thankful for them!
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XSH/23
> WE2XEB/2
> WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
wrote:
>> MF
>> How did they arrive at that frequency range? No where near where we are
at
>> present. New VFO'S and Xtals etc
>> de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats?
>>
>>
>> Hi Laurence,
>>
>> 5 Watts? Do we get to have 40 channels and use a 'power mic' with
>> reverb?
>> Come On!
>>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Laurence KL7UK
>> <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> During the meeting of the CEPT WRC-12 Conference Preparatory Group held
> in
>>> Bucharest between November 1st-4th 2011 an European Common Proposal was
>>> agreed. This ECP represents the block vote of 48 administrations and was
>>> passed without dissent. It proposes an allocation to the amateur service
>>> between 472-480 kHz on a secondary basis with a maximum power limit of
5W
>>> eirp.
>>> This ECP will now be forwarded to the ITU as a contribution from CEPT.
>>> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of those who
>> participated
>>> in the work of the working group that led to the adoption of this
>>> proposal. Also thanks are due to those European Member Societies who
>>> helped to influence their national administrations in this matter.
>>> Now for WRC-12.
>>> Colin, G3PSM
>>> CEPT Co-ordinator for Agenda Item 1.23
>>>
>>>
>>> Laurence KL7UK
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>> WD2XGJ
>> WD2XSH/23
>> WE2XEB/2
>> WE2XGR/1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>