Return-Path: Received: (qmail 34911 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2004 23:59:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 23:59:45 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CNgeS-0003lv-Sk for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:59:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CNgeS-0003lr-JJ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:59:24 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CNgel-0004rz-1O for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:59:43 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CNgeC-0002DG-Ol for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:59:08 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CNgeC-0002D7-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:59:08 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CNge8-0005tO-PN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:59:08 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@81.131.204.200 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 23:58:58 -0000 Message-ID: <005301c4be13$3ed02160$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <802735590.20041029185038@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:58:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.139 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=2.8 Subject: LF: Re: VO1NA today! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Hartmut, yes this is the time of year for it!! I did see Joe during the day-time once last winter, but it was the only time he forgot to switch the rig off in the morning !! The conditions are very quiet at the moment and there is little extra absorbing ionisation in the D layer. The 1400z to 1500z slot is about the time where the sun is at its zenith at the centre of the path giving the highest level of UV ionisation. Paradoxically this is "refelcting" the signal not absorbing it as normal at higher ionisation levels. I believe this path is probably 4 D-layer hops. I have seen more regularly signals like you have reported in the early evening recently. In these you may find that the solar (night-time) shadow at an altitude of 100km is only about mid Atlantic when the signal appears. I believe under these conditions there may be 2 D-layer (50km) hops followed by one hop from maybe 100km, the night-time "reflection" level. I think that what you see confirms that there are now very few injected (precipitated) electrons left from the last geomagnetic disturbance. Signal variations are now probably due to enhancement and cancelltions between different path mode (2-hop, 3-hop, and 4-hop) It is possible to see this daytime skywave effect on the daily plots posted by Brian CT1DRP. His path to DCF39 in daytime is mainly by skywave and you can see a peak in the signal at about 1100 - 1200z. Because this path is only 1960km and the TX is 50kW the signal is always visible above the noise. I believe that if CFH was running you would probably be seeing their signal in daytime now on most days. It gets even more noticable as the days get shorter. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia(at)btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut Wolff" To: Cc: "Martin Elbe" Sent: 29 October 2004 17:50 Subject: LF: VO1NA today! > Uncredible: Traces of VO1NA captured 1300-1500z here in Germany. > See attachement. > > > Hartmut Wolff mailto:wolff.h@t-online.de > Locator: JO52HO