X-GM-THRID: 1216409065276946284 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 0cd692d807f6a219e6e9c15d9fab304945f5bdfa Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.205.5 with SMTP id c5cs31350hug; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 07:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr1996691ugm; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e33si913233ugd.2006.10.05.07.21.22; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GVTza-0004Mr-OF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:14:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GVTzZ-0004Mi-UL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:14:30 +0100 Received: from yk-mlwprd2.northwestel.ca ([198.235.201.13] helo=mail2.theedge.ca) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GVTzV-00086I-Ag for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:14:29 +0100 Received: from eagles (whthyt235-40.northwestel.net [207.189.235.40]) by mail2.theedge.ca (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id A711232738 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 08:13:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <005101c6e888$76be7f30$6501a8c0@eagles> From: "J. Allen" To: References: <001301c6e829$a8a69370$6801a8c0@Radio> <004901c6e881$7ad2d320$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 14:13:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at theedge.ca X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.033,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: Math & advice Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4062 Alan, and All, The top atttachment for the tower end of the horizontal wires at is at 100 feet, these 390 foot long wires fan out from the vertical portion at a ~55 degree angle to eachother and the other two ends are at ~63 and ~70 feet respectively. There is ~10 ft of sag in the wires. One person who gave me early help with the calculation said that the lower attachment points of the wires out away from the tower also lowered the effective height of the vertical portion of the antenna significantly, being as low as the lowest part of the horizontal wires, and that is how I ended up with the number 2.85 for the antenna current for 1 W ierp. Is capacity hat wire elevation significant in the calculations? There are now four different numbers from as many people, and I am unsure how to proceed. LF seems to be significantly art and partially science. :o) I moved the thermocouple type RF ammeter to the line between the matching transformer and the loading coil and it reads exactly the same, 2.8 Amps. Would it work better for me to wind a new matching transformer at the antenna on an iron or ferite core. Is a metallic core likely to improve what I am seeing? If so, would a TV core do the job? The existing XER is a bifilar wound 1:1 air solenoid type. J. VY1JA