Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mi03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D89EF380000D0; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TjDcU-0000FC-7D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:34:54 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TjDcT-0000F3-GD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:34:53 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TjDcR-000605-C9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:34:52 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAOwNylBcF/Hr/2dsb2JhbABFvm8Xc4IZBQEBBQgBAQNJAiwBAQMFAgEDEQQBAQolFAEEGgYWCAYTCgECAgEBiAa8foxXhEMDjXyYVYJz X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,275,1355097600"; d="scan'208,217";a="559840458" Received: from host-92-23-241-235.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.241.235]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2012 18:34:29 +0000 Message-ID: <004f01cdd960$7cdcb7e0$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <50C9F460.30504@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <001501cdd94b$fb2ac070$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <50CA0CA0.9010806@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:34:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 3.8 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: Stefan I can do it on CW with a real time QSO so why generate QRM from a Beacon Basher mode, suggest you try CW QSO mode and let us all know how you get on, but you need a RX and some EARS. mal/g3kev [...] Content analysis details: (3.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 3.8 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 396a95bbad9af60b2ee566edcd35b39e Subject: Re: LF: Re: Transatlantik WSPR on 630m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004C_01CDD960.7CA86170" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b8b50ca2017769c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CDD960.7CA86170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan I can do it on CW with a real time QSO so why generate QRM from a = Beacon Basher mode, suggest you try CW QSO mode and let us all know how = you get on, but you need a RX and some EARS. mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:13 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Transatlantik WSPR on 630m Finally you are back to your full performance Mal. I already thought = you were getting older and quieter :-) Now let's enjoy the party. BTW what do you think about a nice WSPR = night on MF? You could go to bed early as usual and check the database = the next day :-D 73, Stefan Am 13.12.2012 17:07, schrieb mal hamilton:=20 MF PROPAGATION The optimum time on MF for UK/USA is USA sunset on 600 metres and = 160 metres, this applies to East Coast USA and spreads across North = America as the night progresses until the Optimum time for the UK to = work the Pacific coast USA is UK sunrise. This is the general picture and I have achieved good results over = the years on both 600 and 160 metres on CW in QSO MODE It is interesting to watch and hear through out the night the = various States appear going West as their sunset approaches. I also understand EI0CF has worked the East Coast USA on 600 metres = SSB This DX excitement is not possible on Unattended Beacon Bashing ---- = A boring mode I would say!! de G3KEV =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:29 PM Subject: LF: Transatlantik WSPR on 630m MF,=20 Last night there were 5 US stns copying me on 630m in WSPR. There = is an interesting difference to LF, regarding times of best SNR. The = best SNR ich achieved during the local sunset in the US, not to the time = of my local sunrise here in DL. Bests SNRs of the 5 stations are: Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az=20 2012-12-12 23:52 DK7FC 0.475762 -30 0 JN49ik 1 = WG2XJM EN91 6633 300 =20 2012-12-12 23:32 DK7FC 0.475763 -25 0 JN49ik 1 = WE2XGR/2 FN31ls 6099 295 =20 2012-12-12 23:36 DK7FC 0.475762 -26 0 JN49ik 1 = W1VLF FN31ls 6099 295 =20 2012-12-12 23:44 DK7FC 0.475762 -25 0 JN49ik 1 = WG2XKA FN33ir 5983 298 =20 2012-12-12 23:12 DK7FC 0.475763 -15 0 JN49ik 1 = WD2XSH/17 FN42pb 5927 294 =20 There were no dramatic changes in DST and K index during the = night. However we may have to go on with the tests to confirm that = observation. 73, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CDD960.7CA86170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan
I can do it on CW with a real time QSO so = why =20 generate QRM from a Beacon Basher mode, suggest you try CW QSO mode and = let us=20 all know how you get on, but you need a RX and some EARS.
mal/g3kev
 
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From:=20 Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Thursday, December 13, = 2012 5:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: = Transatlantik WSPR=20 on 630m

Finally you are back to your full performance Mal. I = already=20 thought you were getting older and quieter :-)

Now let's enjoy = the=20 party. BTW what do you think about a nice WSPR night on MF? You could = go to=20 bed early as usual and check the database the next day :-D

73,=20 Stefan

Am 13.12.2012 17:07, schrieb mal hamilton:=20
MF PROPAGATION
The optimum time on MF for UK/USA = is USA=20 sunset on 600 metres and 160 metres,  this applies to East = Coast=20 USA and spreads across North America as the night = progresses until=20 the Optimum time for the UK to work the Pacific coast USA is UK = sunrise.
This is the general picture and I have = achieved good=20 results over the years on both 600 and 160 metres on CW in QSO=20 MODE
It is interesting to watch and hear through = out the=20 night  the various States appear going West as their = sunset=20 approaches.
I also understand EI0CF has worked the East = Coast USA=20 on 600 metres SSB
This DX excitement is not possible on = Unattended=20 Beacon Bashing ---- A boring mode I would = say!!
 
de G3KEV
 
   
-----=20 Original Message ----- From:=20 Stefan Sch=E4fer To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent:=20 Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:29 PM Subject:=20 LF: Transatlantik WSPR on 630m

MF,

Last night there were 5 US stns copying = me on=20 630m in WSPR. There is an interesting difference to LF, regarding = times of=20 best SNR. The best SNR ich achieved during the local sunset in the = US, not=20 to the time of my local sunrise here in DL.
Bests SNRs of the 5 = stations are:

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2012-12-12 23:52   DK7FC   0.475762   -30   0   JN49ik   1   WG2XJM   EN91   6633   300 
 2012-12-12 23:32   DK7FC   0.475763   -25   0   JN49ik   1   WE2XGR/2   FN31ls   6099   295 
 2012-12-12 23:36   DK7FC   0.475762   -26   0   JN49ik   1   W1VLF   FN31ls   6099   295 
 2012-12-12 23:44   DK7FC   0.475762   -25   0   JN49ik   1   WG2XKA   FN33ir   5983   298 
 2012-12-12 23:12   DK7FC   0.475763   -15   0   JN49ik   1   WD2XSH/17   FN42pb   5927   294 

There were no = dramatic changes in DST and K index during the night. However we = may have=20 to go on with the tests to confirm that observation.

73,=20 = Stefan/DK7FC
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