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Stefan
I can do it on CW with a real time QSO so why  generate QRM from a =
Beacon Basher mode, suggest you try CW QSO mode and let us all know how =
you get on, but you need a RX and some EARS.
mal/g3kev

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:13 PM
  Subject: Re: LF: Re: Transatlantik WSPR on 630m


  Finally you are back to your full performance Mal. I already thought =
you were getting older and quieter :-)

  Now let's enjoy the party. BTW what do you think about a nice WSPR =
night on MF? You could go to bed early as usual and check the database =
the next day :-D

  73, Stefan

  Am 13.12.2012 17:07, schrieb mal hamilton:=20
    MF PROPAGATION
    The optimum time on MF for UK/USA is USA sunset on 600 metres and =
160 metres,  this applies to East Coast USA and spreads across North =
America as the night progresses until the Optimum time for the UK to =
work the Pacific coast USA is UK sunrise.
    This is the general picture and I have achieved good results over =
the years on both 600 and 160 metres on CW in QSO MODE
    It is interesting to watch and hear through out the night  the =
various States appear going West as their sunset approaches.
    I also understand EI0CF has worked the East Coast USA on 600 metres =
SSB
    This DX excitement is not possible on Unattended Beacon Bashing ---- =
A boring mode I would say!!

    de G3KEV

      =20
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20
      To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
      Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:29 PM
      Subject: LF: Transatlantik WSPR on 630m


      MF,=20

      Last night there were 5 US stns copying me on 630m in WSPR. There =
is an interesting difference to LF, regarding times of best SNR. The =
best SNR ich achieved during the local sunset in the US, not to the time =
of my local sunrise here in DL.
      Bests SNRs of the 5 stations are:

            Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az=20
             2012-12-12 23:52   DK7FC   0.475762   -30   0   JN49ik   1  =
 WG2XJM   EN91   6633   300 =20
             2012-12-12 23:32   DK7FC   0.475763   -25   0   JN49ik   1  =
 WE2XGR/2   FN31ls   6099   295 =20
             2012-12-12 23:36   DK7FC   0.475762   -26   0   JN49ik   1  =
 W1VLF   FN31ls   6099   295 =20
             2012-12-12 23:44   DK7FC   0.475762   -25   0   JN49ik   1  =
 WG2XKA   FN33ir   5983   298 =20
             2012-12-12 23:12   DK7FC   0.475763   -15   0   JN49ik   1  =
 WD2XSH/17   FN42pb   5927   294 =20

      There were no dramatic changes in DST and K index during the =
night. However we may have to go on with the tests to confirm that =
observation.

      73, Stefan/DK7FC


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Stefan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I can do it on CW with a real time QSO so =
why&nbsp;=20
generate QRM from a Beacon Basher mode, suggest you try CW QSO mode and =
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all know how you get on, but you need a RX and some EARS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>mal/g3kev</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3DStefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de=20
  href=3D"mailto:Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de">Stefan =
Sch=E4fer</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 13, =
2012 5:13=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: LF: Re: =
Transatlantik WSPR=20
  on 630m</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Finally you are back to your full performance Mal. I =
already=20
  thought you were getting older and quieter :-)<BR><BR>Now let's enjoy =
the=20
  party. BTW what do you think about a nice WSPR night on MF? You could =
go to=20
  bed early as usual and check the database the next day :-D<BR><BR>73,=20
  Stefan<BR><BR>Am 13.12.2012 17:07, schrieb mal hamilton:=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>MF PROPAGATION</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The optimum time&nbsp;on MF for&nbsp;UK/USA =
is USA=20
    sunset&nbsp;on 600 metres and 160 metres, &nbsp;this applies to East =
Coast=20
    USA&nbsp;and spreads across&nbsp;North America as the night =
progresses until=20
    the Optimum time for the UK to work the Pacific coast&nbsp;USA is UK =

    sunrise.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This is the general picture and I have =
achieved good=20
    results over the years on both 600 and 160 metres on CW in QSO=20
    MODE</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>It is interesting to watch and hear through =
out the=20
    night &nbsp;the various States appear going West&nbsp;as their =
sunset=20
    approaches.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I also understand EI0CF has worked the East =
Coast USA=20
    on 600 metres SSB</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This DX excitement is not possible on =
Unattended=20
    Beacon Bashing ----&nbsp;A boring&nbsp;mode&nbsp;I would =
say!!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>de G3KEV</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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      <A title=3DStefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de=20
      href=3D"mailto:Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de"=20
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      <DIV=20
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      <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
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      <DIV=20
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normal; x-system-font: none"><B>Sent:</B>=20
      Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:29 PM</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: =
normal; x-system-font: none"><B>Subject:</B>=20
      LF: Transatlantik WSPR on 630m</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>MF, <BR><BR>Last night there were 5 US stns copying =
me on=20
      630m in WSPR. There is an interesting difference to LF, regarding =
times of=20
      best SNR. The best SNR ich achieved during the local sunset in the =
US, not=20
      to the time of my local sunrise here in DL.<BR>Bests SNRs of the 5 =

      stations are:<BR><BR>
      <TABLE>
        <TBODY>
        <TR>
          <TH>Timestamp</TH>
          <TH>Call</TH>
          <TH>MHz</TH>
          <TH>SNR</TH>
          <TH>Drift</TH>
          <TH>Grid</TH>
          <TH>Pwr</TH>
          <TH>Reporter</TH>
          <TH>RGrid</TH>
          <TH>km</TH>
          <TH>az</TH></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2012-12-12 23:52&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;DK7FC&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.475762&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;-30&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;JN49ik&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;1&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;WG2XJM&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;EN91&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;6633&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;300&nbsp;</TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2012-12-12 23:32&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;DK7FC&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.475763&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;-25&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;JN49ik&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;1&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;WE2XGR/2&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;FN31ls&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;6099&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;295&nbsp;</TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2012-12-12 23:36&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;DK7FC&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.475762&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;-26&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;JN49ik&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;1&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;W1VLF&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;FN31ls&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;6099&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;295&nbsp;</TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2012-12-12 23:44&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;DK7FC&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.475762&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;-25&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;JN49ik&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;1&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;WG2XKA&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;FN33ir&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;5983&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;298&nbsp;</TD></TR>
        <TR>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;2012-12-12 23:12&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;DK7FC&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0.475763&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;-15&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;0&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;JN49ik&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;1&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;WD2XSH/17&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dleft>&nbsp;FN42pb&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD align=3Dright>&nbsp;5927&nbsp;</TD>
          <TD =
align=3Dright>&nbsp;294&nbsp;</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>There were no =

      dramatic changes in DST and K index during the night. However we =
may have=20
      to go on with the tests to confirm that observation.<BR><BR>73,=20
      =
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