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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I agree, it's hard to keep them with us. But even some adults are doing the same thing. I suspect they need some motivations. Not all the people are auto-motivating. Some just give up after a short. This kid is already going strong with a 20 Mt PIC controlled colpitts oscillator beacon, While studying for his license exam in November. Not so bad. Let's see in the future. 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But even some adults are doing the same thing. I suspect they need some motivations. Not all the people are auto-motivating. Some just give up after a short. This kid is already going strong with a 20 Mt PIC controlled colpitts oscillator beacon, While studying for his license exam in November. Not so bad. Let's see = in the future. 73, Giorgio. -----Messaggio originale----- Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Per conto di Stefan = Sch=E4fer Inviato: venerd=EC 21 settembre 2012 16.25 A: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Oggetto: Re: R: LF: R: Re: R: Homebrew stuff Hi Giorgio, Am 21.09.2012 16:15, schrieb IZ2JGB Giorgio Barinetti: > [...]Now you have > to go in technical schools, show that to the boys and if they > are interested they'll come. Yes, and with some luck they (not all but many) will solder a christmas=20 tree with some green LEDs (e.g. http://www.df0wl.de/projekte.html)=20 and/or will buy a 2m/70cm FM hand TRX, will do some packet radio or APRS = and 2 years later they are gone... Normally and regularly using the bands without becoming tired to have=20 QSOs with some nice content (here called rag-chewing) is rare :-( But there are exceptions :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC > But if you don't .. they'll not come. > > Ok for the sked :) > > 73, > Giorgio. > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Per conto di Stefan = Sch=E4fer > Inviato: venerd=EC 21 settembre 2012 14.51 > A: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Oggetto: Re: LF: R: Re: R: Homebrew stuff > > Hi Giorgio, > > You're 39? That's fine! So you're my generation :-) I'm 36 and thought > i'm alone :-) > > Can we make a sked in 2050? :-) > > > Am 21.09.2012 13:17, schrieb IZ2JGB Giorgio Barinetti: > =20 >> Sure, Alan. >> >> The commercial unleaded solder are really a problem. >> >> Manual soldering is working surely better, surely if you've got >> =20 > experience. > =20 >> I've got a couple of wellers too, the WECP20. Unbeatable. The first = have >> been >> Bought when I was 16.... now I'm 39 :) >> >> =20 > As a child of 8 years i was fascinated by the very flexible metallic > wire (the solder) and used a big 110W hand-iron with a wooden hold. > > No i prefer a Ersa Analog 60 solder station. It is easy to replace the > tip while it is on 450 =B0C... > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > > > ----- > Nessun virus nel messaggio. > Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com > Versione: 2012.0.2221 / Database dei virus: 2441/5282 - Data di = rilascio: > 20/09/2012 > > > =20 ----- Nessun virus nel messaggio. 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