Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16932 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 22:16:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 30 May 2001 22:16:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 11656 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 22:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 30 May 2001 22:15:47 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 155E6t-0003Ev-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:06:35 +0100 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.3]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 155E6r-0003Eo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:06:34 +0100 Received: from xtr743187 ([202.27.178.116]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010530220633.MAME697749.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:06:33 +1200 Message-ID: <004f01c0e954$ffae1fa0$2fb21bca@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: LF: Re: RA1792 audio calibration Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:07:11 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Jim and others, Some rigs have DDS sidetone, including the TS-850. I modified my TS-850 so that sidetone is available from the rear panel, and is present whenever CW mode is selected. I originally wanted it for doing XY scope displays of sidetone vs received audio, for confirming zero beat with a wobbly circle display. Off-air carriers can usually be checked to very good accuracy using that approach (but noting 1 Hz nominal tuning steps of the TS-850). However, having the the DDS sidetone available externally is also excellent for frequency calibration of sound cards. Now with Argo, 1 Hz steps are nicely filled in on the PC screen display. A note of caution though. Even though I have a close tolerance master oscillator in the TS-850, I find that the DDS outputs do have residual errors, probably related to "digital fragments" from the binary processes in the DDS chips. There can be tens of millihertz errors, which are far greater than the master oscillator ppm figure converted to the DDS output frequency. These digital fragments are less than ppm errors at HF, but are quite significant at LF and audio. I originally used 1000 Hz sidetone for Argo work, but found that the DDS sidetone error was worse for 1000 Hz than 800 Hz, so I have gone back to using 800 Hz reference. 73, Bob ZL2CA