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(VPS 110124-0, 24/01/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: What freq. list can you recommend Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m013.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60204d3dfeb2642c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jurgen a lot of the list quoted are well out of date. Dont assume beca= use a station is quoted that it actually exists on that frequency. GBR and= GBZ closed years ago and the aerials were demolished. Work the other way= see what you can hear and then try and identify the stations Your should= see around 5 or 6 stations between 17 and 24 kHz. One of the best checks= used to be the WWWL lighning sites but our local in Shefield seems to have red= uced its bandwidth to below where the military VLF stations exist. Remember that many of the "signals" heard in this frequency area are= due to badly designed or manufactured domestic equipment, in your or your neighbours houses. Best wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Jurgen Bartels" To: Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 6:36 PM Subject: Re: LF: What freq. list can you recommend > Hello Jurgen, try also these ones: > http://www.vlf.it/trond2/list.html > http://www.vlf.it/itulist/itulist.htm Thank you Daniele ! > - a weak 16,0kHz CW that is slowly being keyed. According to the above list that should be from UK, but its level is= too low, unles they use low power > - 26,0 kHz, modulated Not listed there either :-) Jurgen Bartels Suellwarden, N. Germany hor. Antennas: 11-ele 45-87MHz 13-ele Band-III, 48-ele UHF, FM: 15.11 TV: Winradio G305 / Fly2000 + video noise filter & variable IF BW FM: Downconverter + Perseus + Speclab as WFM demod. MW: staggered 300m Beverage 320=B0, 30 x 4m EWE 320=B0, Winradio & Pe= rseus http://dx.3sdesign.de/tv_offset_list.htm http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm http://fewo.3sdesign.de - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coa= st