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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:38:21 -0000
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: 8kHz of spectrum
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To a REAL ham NOT a problem but an inconvience but most operators today on
LF es MF are Appliance Operators so it is a big problem.
g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik Strobbe" <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: LF: Re: 8kHz of spectrum


Warren, all,

472-480kHz with 5W EIRP is the outcome of long and at moments very difficult
negotiations.
Indeed, my "wish list" would be 500-515kHz with 100W EIRP or so. But at the
end I prefer to have 472-480kHz with 5 W EIRP in many countries than the
current 501-504kHz is just a few countries.
About 5W EIRP: that is some dB above the power I have been using for the
past years. It is OK CW up to +2000km and up to 7000km in WSPR / QRSS3.
The small frequency move should at worst be a minor inconvenience to any
real ham.

And: this is still a proposal for WRC 2015, so fingers crossed (or not ?)
until then.

73, Rik  ON7YD

________________________________________
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]
namens Warren Ziegler [wd2xgj@gmail.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 2 november 2011 17:30
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: 8kHz of spectrum

FYI the U.S. Experimental license WE2XGR covers 42kHz (460-480 and
493-515) with 1kW ERP and includes cw,ssb and all data modes.
No interference problems to date.

--
73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Tracey Gardner
<tracey.gardner@talktalk.net> wrote:
> There are a mere 68 active NDBs in that segment.
>
> 73s Tracey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Laurence KL7UK
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:24 PM
> Subject: LF: 5 Whats?
> During the meeting of the CEPT WRC-12 Conference Preparatory Group held in
> Bucharest between November 1st-4th 2011 an European Common Proposal was
> agreed.   This ECP represents the block vote of 48 administrations and was
> passed without dissent.   It proposes an allocation to the amateur service
> between 472-480 kHz on a secondary basis with a maximum power limit of 5W
> eirp.
> This ECP will now be forwarded to the ITU as a contribution from CEPT.
> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of those who
participated
> in the work of the working group that led to the adoption of this
> proposal.   Also thanks are due to those European Member Societies who
> helped to influence their national administrations in this matter.
> Now for WRC-12.
> Colin, G3PSM
> CEPT Co-ordinator for Agenda Item 1.23
>
>
> Laurence KL7UK
>
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