Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2139 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 17:35:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 17:35:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 7711 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 17:29:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 17:29:53 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14JIjh-0002Ln-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:20:33 +0000 Received: from tomts5.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.25] helo=tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14JIjd-0002LH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:20:30 +0000 Received: from server1 ([216.209.138.160]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010118171946.IFDP27935.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@server1> for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:19:46 -0500 Message-ID: <004d01c08172$c4ecec10$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> From: "Larry Kayser" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3.0.1.16.20010118144119.33cf64d8@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> <3.0.1.16.20010118170002.2d6fbe82@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Subject: Re: LF: Dipole antenna at LF, Wet Stuff? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:18:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: > interesting. Especially as some of us recently experienced that wet stuff > absorbs a lot of RF. ? "wet stuff", what do you mean? Snow and ice at -40c (or f ;<] hi) are the best insulators around and they sure are not "wet" Hi. If I have it right your talking about white "wet stuff" that was barely frozen that you recently had in the UK? Yes that is "wet stuff", what we call spring, summer and fall over here hi. We have four seasons here, Seriously cold and lots of snow, wet soggy and cool with big snow storms not forecasted, occasionally warm with snow flurries and preparing for seriously cold with daily white outs. > What frequencies were used at MF ? The lowest would be around 1.7 mHz up to 12 mHz . I mostly worked CW and the lower frequencies. We did have one channel at 1.7 mHz CW to Greenland that worked especially well. I liked the transmitter, it had tubes and kept my fingers warm hi. I have had a fond affection for 2E26 tubes (oops valves) ever since.... Larry VA3LK PS, seriously, snow and ice are excellent insulators but any "water" which would denote "wet" snow and ice would be a disaster for RF, agreed.