Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89885 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2004 18:15:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Aug 2004 18:15:46 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BsQL4-00038J-Ph for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:18:11 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BsQL4-00038G-NX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:18:10 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BsQIj-0007hY-O0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:15:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BsQHX-0003zY-PQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:14:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BsQHW-0003zG-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:14:30 +0100 Received: from h11.rdg.cp.net ([209.228.29.61] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BsQHS-0007OS-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:14:30 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.234.94) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.0.030.2) id 410F99730003985E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:14:19 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01c478e1$ffab2f00$5eeafc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <30.5cec4476.2e422ade@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 23:28:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_20_30=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,TW_GV=0.077 Subject: Re: LF: CW and other modes Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
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From: G4gvw@aol.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: LF: CW and other modes
 
Why do you need to go to all this trouble when a competent CW operator can DO BETTER. For those that do not or cannot master CW, start learning. This is the most sensible and most cost efficient way to approach the business. No expensive computers or other devices needed.
All that is needed is dedication and some work and not depend on the LAZY MAN'S approach.
 
 
 

As a start John, we might have to define our terms as to what is acceptable as "speech transmission"!
Dependant upon the defined term we can commence with a series of logical steps toward such a goal.
At the "starter" end there is perhaps the simple "Voice-to-code, Code-to-voice" protocol of speech recognition to keyer (morse or other) and the various demod possibilities with the attendant condition that one might call "CQ" into one's mic. today, and be attendant upon one's receiving apparatus for a speech reply sometime during the following week! The thing starts to take on interesting possibilities if it is acceptable to involve networking infrastructure with only some of the task being allocated to the RF path at LF.
However, I believe that chucking these questions and ideas up in the air for all to catch and play with is what will prompt experimentation and potential solution(s).
"Is there somebody out there ?" is a whole sentence and, as we are all aware, requires very few data bits to be identified as such in innumerable languages without complicated translation.
Lateral thinking might, therefore, suggest that "speech" should be redefined when "transmission" at narrow bandwidths is invoked. This is more or less what we are doing today - conveying sense and meaning. Your question may in fact be posing as a whole range of problems to whet our appetites!
 
Pat g4gvw