Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 82E913800009B; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rz31n-0004Ng-4j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:25:55 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rz31m-0004NX-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:25:54 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rz31k-00022r-Lu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:25:54 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAO2/QE9cF/0A/2dsb2JhbABEgk2vXIEHgW4FAQEFCAEBAxkyHBABAQMFAgEDDQQEAQEKJRQBBBocCAYTCgECAgEBh3K4fYt/DQIKARNFAQGEF4M+BIJdhT6FOo1hjG4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,445,1325462400"; d="scan'208,217";a="375863607" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.253.0]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2012 09:25:45 +0000 Message-ID: <004601cceee8$7566da80$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002a01ccee25$c2416cd0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4F3F800B.2000201@xs4all.nl> <003e01ccee2d$49b17f50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <007f01ccee6c$3eca0f50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <6ADDBBA8CD0B4DC38D7950C75294B505@AGB> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:25:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01CCEEE8.751F7140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:453702368:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410a4f40c0794dcd X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CCEEE8.751F7140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham I have some filtering and the phone is not effected only the data stream = taking some hits.=20 It could well be an earth loop problem, must investigate further. Its a long time since I have been in Walmsley/Liverpool. I used that = route frequently Liverpool/Belfast but these days its Cairnryan/Larne The mode is popular because it is easy to implement especially with CW = transmitters and C/D/E amplifiers.=20 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:02 PM Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 R Mal Yes I cam across this some time ago with the first broad band = router, I brought one by edimax , not supposed to be the best , = but had a metal case and a real fcc licence , that was fine , = till adsl2 , the net-gear modem supplied was 100% u/s with any = Rf on any band .... I brought the the newer version of the edimax , its not as Rf = proof as the old adsl-1 version, but for some reason , only takes = a hit on 160/80 =20 Not too much you can do , apart from the usual Rf chokes , = could try a radio card from the router to the PC , if that's = where the Rf is being picked up ..unplug everything , see if it = crashes with just the phone line connected ? but with just the = driver , sounds a bit like a earth link .. depends how you have the = station wired up , i am in the top front room of the house , so = no direct earth , that's out in the shed , where the tuners are = , but I need to bond everything together to stop cable pick = up.. 73 -G.. From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 Yes Graham This seems to be the problem although it recovers quickly but not = quick enough. It happens with very little RF being transmitted at the = driver chip stage without the PA switched on. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 Mal, Are you sure the internet/broadband connection is not being = frozen by the TX . ?=20 I have this problem on 160 and 80 for some reason , 10 watts = and the web traffic stops but oddly , no problem on the other bands ...so you can miss = the incoming spots .. check the psk map and you will see 'who' is decoding you ..=20 This is one of the reasons a server handling the ros & opera = s/n reports would be a good addition . but the problem is = finding some one or group who could construct such a piece of = software .. it can be located on the sever JR runs .... still = looking for offers on that ..=20 73 -G.=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:05 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 Tnx Albert But why am I not seeing this info on the right hand windiow. You are = S9 audible mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Albert=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: Re: LF: opera 500 Op 18-2-2012 11:12, mal hamilton schreef:=20 mf Does anyone copy my op4 on 501.5 at present. No database = feedback from anyone=20 mal/g3kev 10:16 500 G3KEV de PA0LCE Op4 495 km -9 dB in LAGE MIERDE = JO21NJ 10:16 500 G3KEV de PA3ABK Op4 443 km -3 dB in Dordrecht 10:16 500 G3KEV de G3ZJO Op4 229 km -26 dB in Northampton 10:16 500 G3KEV de ON6EO Op4 -4 dB in JO11LE 10:16 500 G3KEV de PA0ONO Op4 421 km -13 dB in Rotterdam 10:16 500 G3KEV de PA0A Op4 461 km -1 dB in Lucaswolde JO33DE 10:15 500 G3ZJO de G3ZJO Op4 0 km +6 dB in Northampton with = .0002w + 5m inv L-rx mini whip ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CCEEE8.751F7140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham
I have some filtering and the phone is not = effected only=20 the data stream taking some hits.
It could well be an earth loop problem, must = investigate=20 further.
Its a long time since I have been in = Walmsley/Liverpool. I=20 used that route frequently Liverpool/Belfast but these days its=20 Cairnryan/Larne
The mode is popular because it is easy to = implement=20 especially with CW transmitters and C/D/E amplifiers.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Saturday, February 18, = 2012 9:02=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: opera = 500

R Mal
 
Yes  I cam  across  this  some  time = ago =20 with the  first  broad  band  router,  I=20 brought  one  by  edimax , not  supposed to be = the =20 best , but  had a metal  case  and  a =20 real   fcc  licence , that  was fine , till=20 adsl2  , the  net-gear modem supplied  was  100%=20 u/s   with  any  Rf  on any  band = ....
 
I brought the  the  newer version of the  = edimax ,=20 its   not  as  Rf proof as the  old = adsl-1 =20 version, but  for  some  reason  , only  = takes=20 a  hit  on 160/80  
 
Not  too  much  you  can  do  , = apart =20 from the   usual  Rf chokes , could  try  = a =20 radio  card  from the  router to the  PC , if = that's=20 where  the  Rf is being  picked  up =20 ..unplug   everything  , see  if it  = crashes =20 with  just the  phone  line  connected ? but  = with=20 just the  driver , sounds a bit  like a earth  link .. = depends=20 how  you  have the  station  wired up , i am  = in=20 the  top  front  room of the  house , so  = no =20 direct  earth  , that's  out  in the  = shed ,=20 where the  tuners  are ,  but  I need  = to =20 bond  everything  together to  stop  cable  = pick=20 up..
 
73 -G..
 
 

From: mal hamilton
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:36 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: opera 500

Yes Graham
This seems to be the problem although it = recovers=20 quickly but not quick enough. It happens with very little RF being = transmitted=20 at the driver chip stage without the PA switched on.
de mal/g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Saturday, February 18, = 2012 1:00=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: opera = 500

Mal,
 
Are  you  sure the  internet/broadband =20 connection  is not  being  frozen  by the  = TX . ?=20
 
I have this  problem  on 160 and  80  = for =20 some  reason , 10 watts  and the  web traffic = stops
but oddly , no  problem on the  other bands = ...so =20 you  can  miss  the  incoming  spots = ..
check  the  psk  map and you  will  = see =20 'who'  is  decoding you ..
 
This  is  one of the  reasons  a  = server=20 handling the   ros  & opera   s/n  = reports   would  be  a  good  = addition  .=20 but the  problem  is  finding  some one or = group=20  who could construct  such a  piece of  software = .. it=20 can  be  located   on  the  = sever  JR=20 runs  ....  still  looking  for  = offers  on=20 that  ..
 
73 -G.

Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: LF: opera 500

Tnx Albert
But why am I not seeing this info on the = right hand=20 windiow. You are S9 audible
 
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Albert=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Saturday, February = 18, 2012=20 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: LF: opera = 500

Op 18-2-2012 11:12, mal hamilton schreef:=20
mf
Does anyone copy my op4 on 501.5 at = present. No=20 database feedback from anyone
mal/g3kev
 

10:16    500 G3KEV de = PA0LCE=20 Op4 495 km -9 dB in LAGE MIERDE JO21NJ

10:16    500 G3KEV de = PA3ABK=20 Op4 443 km -3 dB in Dordrecht

10:16    500 G3KEV de = G3ZJO Op4=20 229 km -26 dB in Northampton

10:16    500 G3KEV de = ON6EO=20 Op4  -4 dB in=20 JO11LE

10:16    500 G3KEV de = PA0ONO=20 Op4 421 km -13 dB in Rotterdam

10:16    500 G3KEV de = PA0A Op4=20 461 km -1 dB in Lucaswolde JO33DE

10:15    500 G3ZJO de = G3ZJO Op4=20 0 km +6 dB in Northampton with .0002w + 5m inv L-rx mini=20 whip

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