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From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 17:16:14 -0000
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Subject: Re: LF: UK  Ae mast planning  info
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I am afraid you are wandering off and it is not complicated for those that
know. You are causing confusion. It is 4 years for amateur radio masts.
If a mast has been in use for 4 years continuously and a person can supply
the necessary evidence then a certificate for lawful development will be
issued.
It does not matter how the antenna is secured to the ground for a permanent
structure. If the antenna is mobile on a trailer and not secured to the
ground then normally planning is not required.
de g3kev


----- Original Message -----
From: "pat" <g4gvw@aol.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: LF: UK Ae mast planning info


> Hi All,
>
> Mal, actually the CLUED is just a little more complicated than just 4
> years as a qualifying period. A 10 year period can apply to some aspects
> as you will read in the attachment. The attachment is from a journal
> called Local Government Lawyer and is guidance to those professionally
> engaged in such matters. The appropriate law books have this in more
> detailed and technical form.
>
> Trust this will clarify the position.
>
> If any have problems with .odt I can provide .doc or .rtf
> (in a world of open systems, who needs windows and gates or other
> "Bloatware Inc" products)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 10:44 +0000, mal hamilton wrote:
> > 4 years is the requirement NOT 10 years
> >
> > de G3KEV
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "pat" <g4gvw@aol.com>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: LF: UK Ae mast planning info
> >
> >
> > > Hi Peter,
> > >
> > > It's worth bearing in mind that it is possible to obtain a Certificate
> > > of Lawful Development for Existing Use - CLUED. The general proviso
> > > being that you must be able to substantiate that the "existing use"
has
> > > persisted for a period of 10 years. Always worth investigating as the
> > > granting of such a certificate is "evidence-based" and not supposed to
> > > be at the whim of an official.
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 20:38 +0100, Peter Dodd wrote:
> > > > Hi Graham,
> > > > How the mast is fixed into the ground is irrelevant. The planning
> > > > permission is just for the mast. There is no distinction between
> > > > permanent and temporary in the planning laws to my knowledge,
> > > >
> > > > In the past some have tried to circumvent the planning restriction
by
> > > > having a portable (mast on trailer) arrangement but I don't think
that
> > > > works.
> > > >
> > > > I live in rather a stuffy private estate and I got permission on
> > > > appeal on the grounds that the mast was fold-over and I agreed to
only
> > > > have it raised at night. Over the years the people who made all the
> > > > fuss about the antenna have since died and I put it up when I like.
> > > > Whether this is due to indifference or fear that the curse of the
> > > > radio mast will strike again is not known.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Peter, G3LDO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 26/04/2012 18:53, Graham wrote:
> > > > > Can anyone  advise on the  planning  relevance  / requirements to
> > > > > these  questions  , with  regards to  Ae pole  at the  bottom of
the
> > > > > garden
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Is the secure base moveable or is it concreted into the ground?
> > > > > 2. Can the mast be readily removed from the secure base?
> > > > > 3. If the mast is a permanent structure, has the refurbishment
> > > > > resulted in the erection of an entirely new mast,
> > > > >
> > > > > what  is the  relevance  of the  base  being concreted into the
> > > > > ground ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I assume the  question  of  detaching  the  pole from the  base
is
> > > > > one  of  permanent  or temporary  structure ?
> > > > >
> > > > > replacing  like with  like  would  not  be classed as  a  new mast
?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tnx -G
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > 73 es gd dx de Pat G4GVW, Nr Felixstowe, East Coast, UK
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> 73 es gd dx de Pat G4GVW, Nr Felixstowe, East Coast, UK
>