Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (rly-mg06.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.112]) by air-mg02.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILINMG024-a1948b302b63b7; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:06:44 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg06.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG063-a1948b302b63b7; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:06:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhOG-0007iW-0j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:12 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KXhOF-0007iN-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-4.talktalk.net ([62.24.128.234] helo=smtp.talktalk.net) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXhOC-0007nf-Hx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:11 +0100 X-Path: TTSMTP X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAJCfskhZ8oD3/2dsb2JhbACERrMJegdq Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.242.128.247]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP; 25 Aug 2008 20:06:02 +0100 Message-ID: <004501c906e5$9e1b3370$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <000d01c9052d$6f142c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><003e01c90543$b12bb870$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><20080823193946.20d4b66b@sighthound.demon.co.uk><005701c90555$0018bcb0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920><9256A09B44B94949B34506B5E7260A84@AGB><20080824233353.muhlmpin3r34kggk@webmail4.kuleuven.be><002401c906de$82e26030$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <20080825194046.53199091@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:06:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Buy a QTH like mine and find out first hand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pumford-Green" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500khz rtty > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:15:10 +0100 > "mal hamilton" wrote: > >> I have maximum advantage with the permitted power > > How do you verify your ERP? Your NoV application must have included > some indication of how you would do it. > > How do you ensure your TX power is not excessive, given the self > proclaimed superior location and antenna? > > As you say, local measurement of field strength is only the way to do > it. > > I've done it, many times, using a laboratory standard, calibrated, > professional MF field strength meter, as well as my own home designed > (I can provide you with the maths for it) loop antenna and calibrated > receiver. > > My take off is similarly uncluttered to yours and I've measured FS at > ranges between 600m and 3km, in all directions around my TX antenna. > > I presume, as the professional radio experimenter (not appliance > operator) that you are, that you've done likewise? I'd be interested in > your results. > > Can you give an indication of the overall loss resistance, the > radiation resistance and radiation efficiency of your wonderful 100' > high 1/4 wave inverted-L, and the resultant estimation of maximum TX > power allowable to remain below 1W ERP? > > I guess you'll have these figures to hand, since you are one of the > most technically able, numerate and scientific of the LF/MF community, > by your own, frequent, admission. > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1631 - Release Date: 8/24/2008 > 12:15 PM > > >