Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.31]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC084-86a64d08f70574; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:12:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 26738380003B1; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PSutA-00044A-Ro for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:11:40 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PSutA-000441-Bo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:11:40 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PSut8-00062s-J2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:11:40 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjkGAK6FCE1Ok8JC/2dsb2JhbACCFo9ehAmOLXPDSYVKBIFgjEs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,349,1288569600"; d="scan'208,217";a="335881014" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.147.194.66]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2010 17:11:32 +0000 Message-ID: <004301cb9c7b$1ee6e530$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <2D9F1290-9246-4DFD-A0E6-D9D58DEF00AC@numeo.fr> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:11:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: Re: VLF - distances achjeved Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01CB9C7B.1E853D30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601f4d08f701278d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01CB9C7B.1E853D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Be careful what you publish for accuracy, there are conflicting report= s about what takes place on VLF/LF/MF - lots of inaccuracies.=20 ie carriers seen but no ID then the questions on the reflector, was= that you if not who was it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I saw an X then a Y who was that? Too much guesswork and no positive= ID Published articles need hard facts and some people would believe anyth= ing they read. It is like newspapers often the facts are distorted to= make a good story and it is hard to tell FACTS from FICTION G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Rabson=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: LF: VLF - distances achjeved I am writing a piece on VLF for the Cave Radio & Electronics Group= Journal and would like to include distance records. Can people pleas= e confirm that the following information is correct (or not)? Above-ground antennas Hz ERP mW From To km=20 8970 58 Heidelberg Israel 2873=20 6470 9 Heidelberg Breclav 904=20 5170 5 Heidelberg Breclav 904=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Earth current antennas Hz TX power W Electrode spacing m From To km=20 8970 250 600 Heidelberg Roschbach 72=20 6470 250 600 Heidelberg Roschbach 72=20 5170 250 600 Heidelberg Roschbach 72=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Thank you.=20 John F5VLF ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01CB9C7B.1E853D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John
Be careful what you publish for accur= acy, there are=20 conflicting reports about what takes place on VLF/LF/MF - lots of inac= curacies.=20
ie carriers seen but no ID then the= questions on=20 the reflector,  was that you if not who was it=20 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw an X then a Y who was that? Too= much=20 guesswork and no positive ID
Published articles need hard facts an= d some people=20 would believe anything they read. It is like newspapers often the fact= s are=20 distorted to make a good story and it is hard to tell FACTS from=20 FICTION
 
G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 John=20 Rabson
Sent: Wednesday, December 15,= 2010 10:55=20 AM
Subject: LF: VLF - distances= =20 achjeved

I am writing a piece on VLF for the Cave Radio &= =20 Electronics Group Journal and would like to include distance records= .=20  Can people please confirm that the following information is co= rrect (or=20 not)?


Above-ground=20 antennas


Hz
ERP mW
From
=
To
km
8970
=
58
Heidelberg=
Israel
2873
=
6470
=
9
Heidelberg=
Breclav
904
<= /TD>
5170
=
5
Heidelberg=
Breclav
904
<= /TD>





Earth curre= nt antennas


Hz
TX power W=
Electrode spacing= =20 m
From
=
To
km
8970
=
250
<= /TD>
600
<= /TD>
Heidelberg=
Roschbach<= /DIV>
72
6470
=
250
<= /TD>
600
<= /TD>
Heidelberg=
Roschbach<= /FONT>
72
5170
=
250
<= /TD>
600
<= /TD>
Heidelberg=
Roschbach<= /FONT>
72





Thank you.

John F5VLF


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