Return-Path: Received: (qmail 79960 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 18:47:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 2004 18:47:33 -0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BnM8A-0009qs-DA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:47:54 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BnM7m-0001ah-QA for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:47:30 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BnM7e-0002kT-S8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:47:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BnM7e-0002kK-Go for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:47:22 +0100 Received: from franklin.concentric.net ([206.173.118.91]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BnM7c-0007W0-R7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:47:22 +0100 Received: from JKA (208.37.242.34.ptr.us.xo.net [208.37.242.34]) by franklin.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Relay 1.1] id i6LIlC510326 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004301c46f53$26dfdaf0$3401a8c0@JKA> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002f01c46df8$a3fcfec0$72cdfc3e@l8p8y6> <005901c46e86$99e744c0$3401a8c0@JKA> <000101c46ec1$5e3e4820$69d0fc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:47:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Loops v Verticals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Mal, > Who in the U.S. has worked the distance on a loop that I have covered on > normal CW using a vertical > Scarborought to Russia, you must have read about it. If you need more info > let me know. No, thanks. I remember your messages about the event quite well, and you were certainly well congratulated at the time. I'm not sure where you have gotten the impression that anyone is claiming that a well constructed vertical antenna in a clear area is inferior to a loop for transmitting at LF. The vertical is certainly the best option for people with the resources to do it right. In reading your messages over the years, you have consistently discouraged radio activities in which one could not be the biggest, the best and the first. My only fear is that fellows new to the craft would take this seriously, and feel too limited by equipment, money and real estate to even try participating in LF work. But perhaps even the greenest of us can recognize bluster and self-promotion for what it is. John Andrews, W1TAG