Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23236 invoked from network); 17 Sep 1999 13:21:40 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 17 Sep 1999 13:21:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 29935 invoked from network); 17 Sep 1999 12:19:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 17 Sep 1999 12:19:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11Rwpa-0007pI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:09:34 +0100 Received: from [143.179.236.32] (helo=Lesothosaurus.big-orange.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11RwpZ-0007p7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:09:34 +0100 Received: from w8k3f0 ([143.179.150.22]) by Lesothosaurus.big-orange.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAB6649 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:09:31 +0200 Message-ID: <004301bf0106$91ce2120$1696b38f@w8k3f0> From: "Dick Rollema" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Advice on Antenna. Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:09:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >From PA0SE to All Bob, ZL2CA. wrote: >> 1. If it is mechanically possible you might gain some dB's by placing the >> loading coil (or at least a part of it) at the top of the vertical section. >> Especially with a rather small top-hat as you described this will increase >> the effeciency of the antenna. I believe that G3XDV has some experience >> with it. > >True in theory but often difficult mechanically. The lower the loss in >a given loading coil, the bigger and heavier it generally becomes. Some >of the dBs can be "won back" by having a very well designed loading coil >in a conventional ground mounted enclosure. Observations of >aeronautical non-directional beacon (NDB) T antennas generally shows >that none use loading coils "up in the air". Henk, PA0HVN, who used to be responsible for the NDB's in the Netherlands, once told me the antenna circuit of these beacons includes a resistor to decrease the Q. Without the resistor detuning of the antenna due to snow or glazed frost would cause unacceptable signal strength variations. It is obvious that in this case there is no point in putting a loading coil high up the antenna. Henk also said that these beacons (in the Netherlands) radiate about 100 milliwatts. As I think the transmitter output is of the order of 50...100 W it shows that in spite of the loss in the resistor these beacons do better than most of us, amateurs. No doubt due to the rather long vertical antenna and a very good earthing system. 73, Dick, PA0SE