Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME073-9c94a01f7f1258; Wed, 06 May 2009 16:50:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME075-9c94a01f7f1258; Wed, 06 May 2009 16:49:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1M1o32-00083Y-Uw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 21:49:00 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1M1o32-00083P-79 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 21:49:00 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-3-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.54]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M1o2z-0006mm-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 May 2009 21:49:00 +0100 X-Trace: 191367914/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.106.18.229/None/g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.106.18.229 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Microsoft Office Outlook 11Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgEABOVAUpYahLl/2dsb2JhbACDKIcVhBPCUweCPYE9BQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,304,1238972400"; d="scan'208";a="191367914" Received: from 88-106-18-229.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO asus) ([88.106.18.229]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 May 2009 21:48:56 +0100 From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <200904031959.n33Jxrvn028438@smtpa1.mediabeam.com><20090504220936.59jcwemhlo004wkk@webmail4.kuleuven.be><01a401c9ccfd$f04e8640$6401a8c0@asus><20090504233650.cpq3ip6kir688ogo@webmail4.kuleuven.be><005d01c9cd6b$620ddc00$6401a8c0@asus><20090505121435.9F59DF3863@smtps02.kuleuven.be><20090505152548.71C37F3865@smtps02.kuleuven.be><00df01c9cdac$e9a407c0$6401a8c0@asus><20090505214422.o47capffyyb4oog0@webmail4.kuleuven.be><20090505221513.oso5g5yn6csgwsw4@webmail4.kuleuven.be><20090505225610.msbh1wypf7cws8ks@webmail4.kuleuven.be><20090505234705.h93clwtj8o8o8kg4@webmail4.kuleuven.be><44C635CA641E4CA2BFEAEB12F09E3436@2a2d7ed321c6425><20090506220425.t1ys6qdod0ys0g88@webmail4.kuleuven.be><004001c9ce88$c0371800$6401a8c0@asus> <20090506223954.39s1i4offfb4w44g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:49:00 +0100 Message-ID: <004201c9ce8c$15a04ca0$6401a8c0@asus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20090506223954.39s1i4offfb4w44g@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Thread-Index: AcnOiz5ulBZ8TCKvRWeAKwrHBVCPJQAAMKnw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: LF: RE: rtty test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Rik, You signal not as strong tonight so far. Gary. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe Sent: 06 May 2009 21:40 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: LF: RE: rtty test Gary, Gerhard, right now (20:35 UTC) I can see traces of my signal on the G3YXM =20 grabber and strong signals from Gary. 73, Rik on the Quoting Gary - G4WGT : > Hi Rik & Gerhard, > > When Rik makes his CQ call I will attempt to make a 2 way contact using the > same settings. > > Any reports will be welcome. > > 73 > > Gary - G4WGT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe > Sent: 06 May 2009 21:04 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: LF: RE: rtty test > > Hello Gerhard, > > tonight I will call CQ on 503.5kHz starting 20:30 til 21:20 every 10 > minutes. > Same mode as yesterday. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting "Beckmann, Gerhard" : > >> Hello Rik, >> >> Sorry, but wasn't able to answer earlier. >> Well actually, please let me know when you will prepare the next RTTY test >> transmission and I will try to decode your signals. I am looking forward > to >> verify a new mode. >> >> Vy 73 de Gerhard / DK6NI >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >> >> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Rik Strobbe >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 23:47 >> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: LF: RE: rtty test >> >> Hello Gerhard, >> >> I will do a last transmission at 22:00 UTC >> Otherwise we can try tomorrow (WX permitting) >> >> 73, Rik >> >> Quoting "Beckmann, Gerhard" : >> >>> >>> >>> Hello Rik, >>> >>> I have just installed MMTTY and playing with the settings and need one >> more >>> chance for decoding.... >>> >>> Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI >>> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> >>> >>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Rik Strobbe >>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 22:56 >>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Betreff: Re: AW: LF: RE: rtty test >>> >>> Hello Gerhard, >>> >>> thanks for the report, did you try to decode the RTTY ? >>> >>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>> >>> Quoting "Beckmann, Gerhard" : >>> >>>> >>>> Hello Rik, >>>> >>>> Your signal is fine visible on my waterfall, but with deep QSB-Phases. >>>> >>>> Vy 73 de Gerhard // DK6NI (JN59LN) >>>> >>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- >>>> Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Rik Strobbe >>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 22:15 >>>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Betreff: RE: LF: RE: rtty test >>>> >>>> Faint traces of my signal are showing up on the G4WGT grabber. >>>> I will transmit every 10 minutes starting 20:40 UTC until 21:30 UTC >>>> and listen inbetween. >>>> >>>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>>> >>>> Quoting Rik Strobbe : >>>> >>>>> Hello Gary, LF, >>>>> >>>>> I just had a first transmission. >>>>> I will try short transmissions every 10-15 minutes or so until my >>>>> signal shows up un your grabber. Then I will start longer > transmissions. >>>>> >>>>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>>>> >>>>> Quoting Gary - G4WGT : >>>>> >>>>>> OK Rik, >>>>>> >>>>>> I will look at the settings you describe in MTTY to allow me to >> monitor, >>>> I >>>>>> normally use TrueTTY. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the info. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary - G4WGT. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe >>>>>> Sent: 05 May 2009 16:26 >>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>> Subject: RE: LF: RE: rtty test >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary, LF, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just had a look at MMTTY and it seems pretty easy to set it to 50Hz >>>>>> shift and 22Bd baudrate. >>>>>> The way I did it: >>>>>> 1. As a start select 23Hz RTTY (in "Profiles") >>>>>> 2. In "Options" select "Setup MMTTY" >>>>>> 3. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Shift" from 23 tot 50 (it is not >>>>>> a standard option, but you can just type 50 into the field) >>>>>> 4. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Mark" to a suitable value (that >>>>>> is the audio frequency you get) >>>>>> 5. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Discriminator Type" from VCO to > FIR >>>> BPF >>>>>> 6. In the tab "Demodulator" change "Tap" from 72 to 256 >>>>>> 7. In the tab "Demodulator" click on "OK" >>>>>> 8. In the tab "Decode" change "BaudRate" from 45 tot 22 and click "OK" >>>>>> Steps 5-7 set demodulator type, the values above are the result of >>>>>> some brief dry tests and can most likely still be optimized. You can >>>>>> do that in the main screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> If WX permits (no rain) I intend to run some tests between 20:30 and >>>>>> 21:30 UTC on 503.5kHz in mode USB (so if you listen in LSB don't >>>>>> forget to select reverse mode). >>>>>> I will announce the exact hours later this evening. >>>>>> Between transmissions I will listen on the same frequency. >>>>>> >>>>>> All reports (or replies) are welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>>>>> >>>>>> At 14:14 5/05/2009, you wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Gary, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had a closer look at the 23Hz shift option of MMTTY and it seems >>>>>>> to run at 45Bd what is on the edge regarding the shift/baudrate >>>>>>> ratio. That is most likely the reason why it is not so robust. >>>>>>> Using 45Bd at 85Hz shift would exceed the 100Hz bandwidth limit. >>>>>>> I guess the best option for RTTY would be a shift around 50Hz and a >>>>>>> lower baudrate (say 20Bd) what would well fit within the 100Hz >>>>>>> bandwidth and would have a sufficient shift/baudrate ratio to >>>>>>> provide a robust signal. >>>>>>> I will see if I can get such signal out of MMTTY and - if time >>>>>>> permits - run some tests tonight. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At 12:22 5/05/2009, you wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Rik, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You have experienced the same as I did with 23Hz shift, the signal >>>> needs >>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be very strong to decode. It was in the last 2 minutes that I got > the >>>>>>>> partial decode. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A much better shift to use is the 85Hz which will fit into your > spec. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have had good QSO's with Chris G3XIZ in Biggleswade both of us >> using >>>>>> 85Hz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Give that a try next time & I believe I will get a much better > decode >>>>>>>> judging by the strength of your signal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gary - G4WGT. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe >>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2009 22:37 >>>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: LF: RE: rtty test >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Gary, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> call the is almost right, locator completely. >>>>>>>> But not really impressive for 500mW ERP. >>>>>>>> I could see my signal on your grabber, some slow QSB but strong for >>>>>>>> the last 2 minutes or so. >>>>>>>> I used MTTY with the profile "23Hz RTTY (MTTY)" without any further >>>>>>>> changes, not sure that this is the best mode. >>>>>>>> So any advice is welcome. >>>>>>>> I have also installed MultiPSK, but am still overwhelmed by the >> colors >>>>>>>> and options. >>>>>>>> I am allowed to use any digital mode as long as I stick to max. > 100Hz >>>>>>>> bandwidth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Quoting Gary - G4WGT : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Rik, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is the best I could do, it looks like almost your call sign & >>>>>> locator >>>>>>>>> :- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> RHTQHTST DE TC(TIOJ7T OR1T JO20IX >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary - G4WGT. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik > Strobbe >>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2009 21:10 >>>>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>>>> Subject: LF: rtty test >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> dear all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will run a short (10 minute) rtty test (23Hz shift) on 503.500 at >>>>>> 21UTC >>>>>>>>> Reports and/or reply welcome. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >