X-GM-THRID: 1228670950812512601 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.65.98.14 with SMTP id a14cs149524qbm; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.252.4 with SMTP id z4mr6126159ugh.1171841995987; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:39:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b35si8238533ugd.2007.02.18.15.39.55; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HIvZU-0003W3-Oz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:35:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HIvZU-0003Vu-5e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:35:56 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HIvZR-0000y9-EJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:35:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 60986 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2007 23:35:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=HT0e2DQXWVpOAaSp93iex1aZU9sgvMjvUX9JG5TwvSmwr8FRAL+uATWzkDwamjIh7XvU+K8B7zZUatc1r3OJscEXM8xtUX8QEzUZmPsa/VD+AWaCEozayyE3NrbtiunPWJ2ckanAC6gbnJ1DFocjXOuz4GSQFffURvcffW0MH7w= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.70.212 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2007 23:35:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: jLgaMkAVM1lU8SBUMXQOvStJWWn0izdh09xRxWehOoM5izDq_ETPxN13A3c0oInsIFkVY3VZuZB9W83A1VWShboG85E3t09WT.5duqCM1rHNnVoJRAjAWggXDhQfM5fLDmPCbX4p74s. Message-ID: <004001c753b5$844be1e0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <20070217201022.ds328vq8mpwkg0go@webmail.versatel.de><001701c752f0$bac5c3a0$0300a8c0@lark> <20070218202234.18ouhfoji6osc0go@webmail.versatel.de> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:35:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Sine or not Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2566 Hi Uwe...Phew that is a relief I wasn't too happy about my diagnosis anyway, and the linearity nullified it as an opton. Well Done, I do like it when you solve a problem and do actually know what caused it. I used to have a pernickity tech working with me who used to replace the removed "faulty" component when the set worked ok, to see if the fault returned ! He wasn't really happy until it was pinned down and set in concrete. We used to see very few of these repaired units in the workshop again. The ones I dont like are the ones that just "go away" and you cant get them back. Its then either a lot of soak testing or use the customer as the tester. Good LF DX !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 18 February 2007 19:22 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Sine or not Hi Jeff, hi Alan, sri for being so late with the response. > I use 54�H air coils Jeff, here are two 54�H ring core coils in use. they did and do a good job up to 1kW output. > What is it like a lower power levels ?? Alan, it was all the same, 10W or 800W. > what if there is insulator leakage to find the defect I connected a aerial dummy to the end of the feeder (80m long) in the first step: all the same! second ?accidentally- step: I manually moved the phasemeter somewhat ? surprise: sines like they have to be on the screen! I am ashamed to tell you that inside the phasemeter (homebrew) a ?naked- wire touched the case. thanks for the hints and best regards Uwe/dj8wx