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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks Jay, 73, Jim AA5BW From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Hainline Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:55 PM To: LF: Re: keydown carrier... 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01CF365E.29CDC290" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01CF365E.29CDC290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jay, =20 73, Jim AA5BW =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay Hainline Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: keydown carrier... =20 My radio (Yaesu FT-2000) is set at the very bottom of what the receiver = can cover at 30 KHz in lower sideband mode to catch Bob=E2=80=99s = signal. The scale shows the audio frequency, so Bob=E2=80=99s signal is = around 501 Hz below 30 KHz or 29.499 KHz. My radio probably has a little = drift so I would not rely on that to show slight shift in frequency. = Also I had made an adjustment earlier when I switched it to QRSS 120 = mode to bring the frequency into the middle of the capture. Hope that = clears up any confusion. =20 73 Jay KA9CFD EN40om =20 From: hvanesce =20 Sent: March 2, 2014 18:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: keydown carrier... =20 Jay, =20 Can you help me with units? I am seeing 10mHz shifts on Paul=E2=80=99s = spectrogram and in Bob=E2=80=99s comments; but I read about 0.25 and 0.5 = (not sure of units) shifts on your http://lwca.org/grabbers/ka9cfd/ = spectrogram. What are the units of the frequency scale? (I see a Hz = label, but I can =E2=80=98t work out the numbers) =20 Thanks! =20 73, Jim AA5BW =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Bob Raide Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:10 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: keydown carrier... =20 Paul and Jay; I went out to shack with 2 people [company for the evening and very = curious] I had total mental block mwhen came time to punch 29.499 in!!! = Very embarrassing! Sorry for couple minute delay had to go to Jay's = site to get correct freq! Paul break at freq shift very clear. Will QRSS180 be slow enough to get = capture or maybe need 240 or 500? =20 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 23:57:53 +0000 > From: vlf0403@abelian.org > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: keydown carrier... >=20 >=20 > I just put together a live spectrogram. >=20 > http://abelian.org/vlf/sg29499.shtml >=20 > Updated every 15 mins. The first frequency change is > visible now. >=20 > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01CF365E.29CDC290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Jay,

 

73, Jim AA5BW

 

From:= = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Jay = Hainline
Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:55 PM
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Re: keydown = carrier...

 

M= y radio (Yaesu FT-2000) is set at the very bottom of what the receiver = can cover at 30 KHz in lower sideband mode to catch Bob=E2=80=99s = signal. The scale shows the audio frequency, so Bob=E2=80=99s signal is = around 501 Hz below 30 KHz or 29.499 KHz. My radio probably has a little = drift so I would not rely on that to show slight shift in frequency. = Also I had made an adjustment earlier when I switched it to QRSS 120 = mode to bring the frequency into the middle of the capture. Hope that = clears up any confusion.

&= nbsp;

7= 3 Jay KA9CFD  EN40om

=  

= From:= hvanesce =

= Sent:= March 2, 2014 18:56

= Subject:= RE: LF: keydown = carrier...

 

Jay,

 

Can you help me with units? I am seeing 10mHz shifts on = Paul=E2=80=99s spectrogram and in Bob=E2=80=99s comments; but I read = about 0.25 and 0.5 (not sure of units) shifts on your http://lwca.org/grabbers/ka9cfd= / spectrogram. What are the units of the frequency scale? (I see a = Hz label, but I can =E2=80=98t work out the = numbers)

 

Thanks!

 

73, Jim AA5BW

 

= From:= owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Bob Raide
Sent: = Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:10 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Subject: RE: LF: keydown = carrier...

 

Paul and = Jay;
I went out to shack with 2 people [company for the evening and = very curious]  I had total mental block mwhen came time to punch = 29.499 in!!!  Very embarrassing!   Sorry for couple = minute delay had to go to Jay's site to get correct freq!
Paul break = at freq shift very clear.  Will QRSS180 be slow enough to get = capture or maybe need 240 or 500?
 

> Date: Sun, = 2 Mar 2014 23:57:53 +0000
> From: vlf0403@abelian.org
> To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
> Subject: Re: LF: keydown carrier...
>
> =
> I just put together a live spectrogram.
>
> http://abelian.org/vlf/sg29= 499.shtml
>
> Updated every 15 mins. The first = frequency change is
> visible now.
>
> --
> = Paul Nicholson
> --
> =

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