Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0F5C5380000B6; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:02:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RbYXV-00047l-UJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:13:33 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RbYXV-00047c-HG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:13:33 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f43.google.com ([209.85.161.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RbYXT-0001Zs-Gg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:13:33 +0000 Received: by faap21 with SMTP id p21so5080749faa.16 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.4.167 with SMTP id l7mr12638933wil.51.1324044805323; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.4.167 with SMTP id l7mr12638919wil.51.1324044805208; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from Win7Pro (host81-132-147-53.range81-132.btcentralplus.com. [81.132.147.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id em4sm14694303wbb.20.2011.12.16.06.13.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:13:24 -0800 (PST) From: Terry GW0EZY To: References: <002101ccbbf1$5b23d850$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003d01ccbbf3$0aae64b0$200b2e10$@com> <002f01ccbbf5$e35a9d90$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <002f01ccbbf5$e35a9d90$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:13:21 -0000 Message-ID: <003e01ccbbfc$df523080$9df69180$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acy79gnwK1k4v9+zR426vLm5WX1SnQAA38YQ Content-Language: en-gb X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879 Subject: LF: RE: Re: RE: Re: Wellbrook Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:457456096:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600a4eeb5d7d3d52 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Mal Sorry - couldn't resist the comment - especially as I expected you to remark on poor loop performance compared to the large antenna examples you mention. Of course, in practice amateurs have to do the best with the opportunities they have and loops can provide amateurs living in a challenging QTH with useful lf experience especially taking into account the low noise properties. I have relatives in Scarborough and we stay at Burniston. This summer, I had a pleasant walk along the old railway to Scalby and had a quick look at your QTH to understand why you are such a big signal here. Yes there is plenty of room in Wales and I really have no excuse not to erect a big antenna as, adjacent to our house, there are open fields belonging to a friendly farmer. Up till now other radio interests have had priority. 73 Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton Sent: 16 December 2011 13:23 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: Wellbrook Loop I am West of that establishment and further into the countryside but I am comparing the said loop and its performance to larger antennas and not QTH. location or space. I always thought of Wales as a spacious place and ideal for a radio amateurs, no need to be crammed into a tight corner.This is what the Welsh folks that I have met tell me. de mal/g3kev