X-GM-THRID: 1207048289115328860 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: eed0b575ef2c31eb3198e114f53fa1979325d460 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs8905wrc; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.232.15 with SMTP id e15mr3356442nfh; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si4033389nfc.2006.06.24.06.21.01; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fu80C-0007Y6-00 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:16:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fu80B-0007Xx-Jv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:16:43 +0100 Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fu808-0007pu-LO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:16:43 +0100 Received: from tnt-13-241.easynet.co.uk ([212.134.22.241] helo=captbrian) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1Fu806-000CxJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:16:39 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c69790$5ef77bc0$121686d4@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: References: <521.130bed0.31cc71fb@aol.com> <002301c69690$4cd321c0$5ac428c3@captbrian> <200606231019250198.1433C814@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <005f01c696a6$b55dd1c0$5ac428c3@captbrian> <449C03E7.9010007@wanadoo.fr> <002001c696e3$74317a20$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <00a701c696f5$5231ff00$5ac428c3@captbrian> <001101c69757$d0da6380$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <001a01c6977b$5e8cdfa0$787a7ad5@w4o8m9> <003a01c69784$eb0972a0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:15:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Top-fed LF antenna idea Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5112 You are right of course , but you have spoiled the fun of laying corridor wires at dead of night in my pyjamas. Try book a ground level room and a room on a higher floor directly above. drop wire from up to down. Connect to radiator at ground level and via tx at the upper radiator. Leave it in Beacon mode all night while sleeping in the comfortable bed Much cleverer people than I am can work out what floor the upper one should be on to make this Gamma-match work on a 40 storey building. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Martinez" To: Sent: 24 June 2006 12:54 Subject: LF: Re: Top-fed LF antenna idea > From G3PLX: > > I am sure Jim is right to say "it's not quite true..". As I suggested in my > reply to Brian, if a lot of the field lines just 'short-circuit' back to the > top of the tower, then there isn't going to be much contribution from these. > But I think it's possible to believe that if we have a small monopole > sitting in the middle of a square ground area which is the size of the top > of the tower-block, initially at ground-level, and we then raise it by > jacking-up the tower underneath it, our transmitted signal will increase as > we do so. > > It's well-known that you can work a lot further by taking a 2m handheld up a > tower, but if you only think of surface-wave propagation theory, you would > say that there wasn't any point in doing the same with a 136kHz 'hand-held'. > If we can accept that the old Post Office work on the field-strength from > ships is reliable (it's the height above the sea that counts, not the height > above the transmitter), and we understand the mechanisms involved, we may > gain quite a lot by taking, not just a small vertical monopole but any sort > of metal object which can be deployed clear of the structure, to the top of > something tall. > > 73 > Peter > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/372 - Release Date: 21/06/06 > >