Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28172 invoked from network); 17 May 2001 20:44:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 17 May 2001 20:44:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 8616 invoked from network); 17 May 2001 20:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 17 May 2001 20:43:44 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 150UWJ-0004tq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 May 2001 21:37:15 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.13]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 150UW7-0004rl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 May 2001 21:37:03 +0100 Received: from xtr743187 ([202.27.181.31]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010517203530.JVRO3646237.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:35:30 +1200 Message-ID: <003e01c0df11$39e01a00$1fb51bca@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <65AECDF1F89AD411900400508BFC869F9C04AB@pdw-mail-1.dera.gov.uk> Subject: LF: Re: RE: LF Prop. Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:09:01 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi all, Andy's information is also my recollection of the meaning of LUF: > Seem to remember reading that LUF is a calculation based on D layer > absorbtion. Propagation predictions software giving LUF uses sunspot > number / solar flux and time plus lat / long, but unlike MUF, also needs > transmitter and antenna properties in order to calculate signal strength > > LUF is the lowest frequency that will propagate over the skywave path(s) > that is subject to the D layer absorbtion, whereas MUF is a geometrical > consideration only, so doesn't need power and antenna details. For F layer one hop geometry, a ray is subject to two doses of absorption from the D layer. Absorption increases with decreasing frequency, which can be considered as a path loss matter, and is not a sharp cut-off mechanism. Path loss can to some extent be compensated for by increasing transmitter power and antenna gain. Even for really high radiated power, there is a point where only a one hop path is useable (there is twice the loss in dB for two hop geometry), and even a one hop path can have too much loss for a low powered system. The practical impact is that D layer absorption greatly attenuates skywaves on lower frequency bands during hours of daylight (the sun being the stimulus of D layer ionisation). Best DX is at night-time. 73, Bob