Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26560 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 12:09:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 12:09:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 21003 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 12:09:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 12:09:29 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14pqbf-0003Kf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:58:47 +0100 Received: from cobalt4.source.net ([206.100.10.38]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14pqbe-0003Ka-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:58:46 +0100 Received: from parissn2 (AMontsouris-101-1-2-155.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.39.155]) by cobalt4.source.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA05503 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:58:11 -0700 Message-ID: <003e01c0c800$0d3eab60$0700000a@parissn2> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3.0.1.16.20010418112245.218f3f10@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Subject: Re: LF: WOLF test results, soundcard trouble Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:06:49 +0200 Organization: SC Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi all, Thanks for the interesting posts on frequency errors in sound cards and drivers. It appears that WOLF should use 11025 Hz, rather than 8000 Hz, as its standard sample rate. Upsampling or downsampling by a factor of 4 should pose no problems for drivers, and I would guess that hardware sample rate generators would also be accurate, limited only by the oscillator's calibration error and drift. Version 0.53 can handle 11025 Hz files on receive, but there is currently no way to set that value in the .wav header on Tx. I'll add that feature if it will be useful. Let me know what actual Tx and Rx sample rates are seen from your card at 11025 Hz nominal. Rik's idea of bypassing the card is another good solution. One alternative that already exists is the VE2IQ interface. See http://cafe.rapidus.net/bill1/bbs.htm and download SDPCX.ZIP . This is a home brew Sigma-Delta A/D which drives a serial port. Many PSK and CCW programs can use it, and it has also been used with WOLF. You can buy kits from Bill for US$54, or build your own from scratch. Sample rate is a precise 7200 Hz. Resolution is only 8 bits, but IMO that is plenty, unless the audio signal is dominated by a strong interfering carrier. If most of the audio power is random noise and/or static crashes, then even 1 bit is pretty good! Steve VK2ZTO has shown impressive results sampling this way. If you really need high resolution and linearity, there are several USB audio systems on the market. They offer up to 20 bits at 96 kHz, costing ~$150. I've never tested one, but they are popular in the "semi-pro" marketplace, so I would guess that linearity and noise is pretty good. 73, Stewart KK7KA